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Old 03-03-2012, 22:32   #1
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Do you think a mini-14 ranch have enough stoping power to kill a hog at a 150 yrds ?
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Old 03-03-2012, 23:17   #2
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Hell yes it does. I have killed a lot of hogs when I lived in California with everything from a .22 long rifle to a .54 caliber smoke-pole. We also used to hunt them at night with dogs and knifes, but these days I'm to old and out of shape to be chasing dogs around at night.
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Old 03-03-2012, 23:31   #3
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it'll do a hog if you do your part -especially the smaller tender ones. (the ones that make da bes kine kaukau)

I wouldn't try and pop a 500 pounder with it unless it's all I had.
pigs can get mean if they figure out you are the source of their irritation, and the tusks a good sized boar sports can eff you up pretty bad.


I'd also run a 10 round or better mag and fill it.

(I carry ten rounds in the gun when bush hunting for pig with my mini 30.)
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I wouldn't trust a .223 on anything larger than 200 Lbs, unless its a 2 legged varmit.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:28   #5
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I have killed deer with my mini-14 and 65gr. gameking handloads so there is no doubt in my mind it will kill a hog.
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Depends on several factors. Shooter skill for shot placement would be key, cartridge (5.56X45, 7.62X39 and 6.8 SPC (Discontinued by Ruger)) and bullet type would be the most second important selection I think.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:44   #7
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
I have killed deer with my mini-14 and 65gr. gameking handloads so there is no doubt in my mind it will kill a hog.
there should be doubt.. hog's a different beast. Even its hair is thick and tough, and it has a large layer of fat. Deer is lean, and there's not a lot between it's lungs and the outside world.
The skull and it's interior is massive on a hog, its brain extremely small and surrounded by all this reinforcement.
Now the gameking might do the job just fine, but dont let a dead deer be proof.

But alas, the pig is a nuisance, you can put 100 blow gun darts into it if you want. It's all your conscience, no law.

If you do hunt hog with a 5.56, bring a handgun for a nice mercy kill. Seen 3-4 5.56 go in a hog at point blank to kill it. I use 40 cal 180g
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:51   #8
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They are very tough and you will need the bigger bullets if you can get them, 65 gr sp or a 62-64 gr will be good. If you handload the Barnes TSX 62 Trippleshok will be idea, they expand out and hold shape for the most damage in the 223 bullets. Vmax or ballistic tip don't pentrate well if you don't make a solid shot in the head. I've killed a few in Texas but some got away even after taking 3 shots with 65 gr Sierra, I'm sure they died but they ran off in the brush. One of the guys with us shot one with a 270 and it ran for 15-20 yds before it went down. Head shots are ideal, they have a tough plate behind the shoulder area and even when they are hit they don't bleed very much making for difficult tracking. Good luck!

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:08   #9
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First, I want to be very clear, I really love my Mini 581 series. My is a beautiful piece, it is the tactical 16" with the circassion wood stock. That being said, I would not even consider using it hog hunting here on the Gulf Coast (Mississippi and Louisiana area). Hogs tend to run in packs, probably will not be in the open here to get a 100 yard shot (not open country here), and therefore, will not know how big it is until closer range.

In this area, I have found an inexpensive, fast firing, accurate, reliable and hard hitting rifle. That would be a Swiss K-31. Practice surplus ammo is available now and you can get hunting ammo through Norma. Also, always carry a revolver in no less than .357. Avoid autos unless it is a .45 auto.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:19   #10
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I wouldn't even attempt it. I would get a lot closer (in a tree) or more gun.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:53   #11
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Originally Posted by jdc71 View Post
Do you think a mini-14 ranch have enough stoping power to kill a hog at a 150 yrds ?
that depends on the hog, your ammunition, and on how good a shot you are. I have not used my Mini on hogs, but I have killed quite a few with an AR.
I use a hand loaded Winchester 64 grain SP, and keep shots to less than 100 yards. The hogs have been killed cleanly.
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I have killed and my wife have killed over 30+ hogs with a .223 rem. Generally we are at 100 yards or less, however the .223 will kill a hog. They aren't as bullet proof as people make them to be on the net.

I've used anything from Federal 60gr Nosler Partition, 55 Grain Nosler Ballistic Tips, 55 Grain Softpoints, 55 Grain Hollow Points, etc. They all kill hogs.

I've shot them about 2" below the ear and they just drop. I've also shot them in the heart lung cavity and they don't run far.

My wife hit a 350# hog in the heart lung area with a .223 and it only went about 30 yards before dropping. The furthest we've ever had a hog run was about a 100 yards. (200#er). My wife had a bad angle and hit the hog only in one lung. By the time I found it, it was just laying down exhausted, was still alive, and ended up dispatching it with a 45acp to the head.

In my opinion, if you can hit a 4" pie plate at 100 yards, you'll kill any hog you'll come up to within that range.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:27   #13
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I have killed and my wife have killed over 30+ hogs with a .223 rem. Generally we are at 100 yards or less, however the .223 will kill a hog. They aren't as bullet proof as people make them to be on the net.
In my opinion, if you can hit a 4" pie plate at 100 yards, you'll kill any hog you'll come up to within that range.
This, and with the possible exception of the huge razorbacks or the big Russian hogs. Wild pigs are pretty easy to kill. My stepsons still hunt them at night with dogs and a knife. In over 100 hogs I have killed I only had one go on the attack and try and put the hurt on me and it was wounded, about a 300 pounder and a load of triple ought buck at 10 or 12 feet dropped him dead.
Most people that say you need a bigger gun or they would never use a .223 to hunt pigs have never hunted pigs before.

When I'm talking about hunting pig, I'm not talking about shooting the pig thats out in the barley field with a scoped 06. I'm talking about down and dirty with them at close range.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:22   #14
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Originally Posted by qwman68 View Post
I have killed deer with my mini-14 and 65gr. gameking handloads so there is no doubt in my mind it will kill a hog.
yeah, but even big deer don't have the "shield" or crazy thick skulls like a medium to large male pig has. http://www.biggamehunt.net/tips/what-about-shield

best place to tap a big pig with .223 is in the ear.

in the hundred pound range you'll be fine with a good shot through the mill, but bigger pigs? you Just gotta bring enough gun - or be a wicked accurate shot.


Now my oppinion is based on my experiences, YMMV - the pigs in my neck of the woods don't get too huge - the 7.62x39 is plenty pig medicine within 175 yards - and I only shoot at what I want to eat -and a under 100 to 200 pound pig is the bes kine kaukau IMHO.
Some guys I know do hunt the smaller pigs with .223 with 60+ grain loads and have pretty good success with ethical shots.
I've also killed a 250+ pound pig and found 3 of what appeared to me to be old .223 cal slugs and fragments buried in scar tissue in the ribs and shoulder of an otherwise pretty healthy hog. I assume that since the slugs were pretty intact that the owner of them tried to play "sniper" and take shots from too far out for the caliber - or it was shot during an invasive species eradication sweep from a helicopter.

in close quarters - I still maintain that some (not all) pigs will fight instead of run when hurt, doesn't happen often, but you should be ready for it if it does.
guys hunting with knife or spear and dogs (very popular here) DO get ripped now and then, and I've had pigs in the rain forest that when spooked, whirl around and posture/ false charge at me - I have no doubt that if these pigs were wounded, and not merely startled - they would have pressed an attack.
I also had one way back when I still lived in Cali attack a campsite - donno what It was thinking, Hungry maybe? I swiss cheesed it with a 9mm pistol which I always carry when camping for 2 legged aggressors, I dumped 8 shots into it in about 5 seconds... 6 of them hit.

Me?
I use a Mini 30 with 125 grain SP Federal Powershok for my short game (under 200 yards) and a Savage .270 with 130 or 150 grain SP Winchester for my long game. (over 200 yards) either of those will handle any Hawaii game animal at reasonable for the caliber ranges.
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Most of your pigs are well under 100 lbs and the 223 should be fine. Its a bit rare to see one over 300 and you better make sure you have a Plan B in place. I've had instances where they've turned and headed in my direction which required follow-ups.

Because of their fat and gristle layers on the bigger pigs, a FMJ bullet may not be a bad idea just to make sure of sufficient penetration. It will make tracking far more difficult, but down here a lot of folks are just happy to get lead into them for an "eventual" kill. Not very sporting, but for a lot of us elimination in any way is what's desired.

All this is the main reason I chose a Mini30 instead for the bigger bullet. I shot a fair sized one just a few weeks ago several times tht was coming my way.

So, I guess I'm saying that if you want to shoot a BEEEG pig with the Mini14, be safe and in a tree, just in case.

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I also had one way back when I still lived in Cali attack a campsite.
Funny story, kind of similar. Years ago one of my buddies and I decided spur of the moment to go down to the Clear Creek area near the Hernandez Reservoir to do some pig hunting. We had hunted this area before and new of a good camp site, we got there about 11 at night and got the camp set up.

We were up at 4 am and cooked up breakfast on the stove, bacon, eggs, sausage and fried potato's, pot of coffee. We get our gear and start hiking a little after 5. We covered about a 10 mile loop down to the reservoir then east then back to camp. We did not see any fresh pig sign and were thinking the pigs might be further north on the other side of the reservoir.

Well we get back to camp and it looks like it was hit by a tornado, stove is knocked over, pots and pans scattered, ice chest is trashed and our tent and sleeping bags are trampled. Pig sign and tracks are everywhere, there were at least 20 of them. I have had a campsite trashed by bears before but this was a first.
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.223 will kill a pig @150yds.....if hit GOOD now,if hit bad no tellin,but it will die. We use Ar-15's and Mini-14's in south Tx. because they run in packs of up to 20. We TRY for head shots put when all heli breaks loose,ANY hit is a good hit. Like said earlier be careful of the BIG mean ones, they are known to hold a grudge.
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Thanks for all the help guys ,I am going next month in Paso Robles CA . I was skeptical on the 223 but now am at ease but I will have my trusty Colt .357 for my sidearm just incase
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Like most have said Yes a 223 will kill a hog but I like something bigger at 150 yards but a good bullet and a head shot will drop one in its track. These guys shooting from the chopper don't seem to have any problem but they are not shooting 150 yards.
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[QUOTE=TNWhip;696591]Like most have said Yes a 223 will kill a hog but I like something bigger at 150 yards but a good bullet and a head shot will drop one in its track. These guys shooting from the chopper don't seem to have any problem but they are not shooting 150 yards. Wrong picture sorry. I messed up Here is the link
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I hunt pigs a couple times a month here in SW Fl. and haven't neede anything more than 55gr fmj's or hpbt's. But they also get shot at under 100yds and behind the ear. I run a 20rnd mag and am backed up with a .40 and 30rnds.
So yes .223 will kill a hog at that range with proper shot placement.

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As long as you're hunting with a semi-auto, don't think you have to make a one shot kill every time. Shoot it, then keep shooting it until you know it's dead. Have it in your mind when you line up the first shot that there are going to be two more right after it.
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As long as you're hunting with a semi-auto, don't think you have to make a one shot kill every time. Shoot it, then keep shooting it until you know it's dead. Have it in your mind when you line up the first shot that there are going to be two more right after it.
Not when your hunting for meat.
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Muzzle brakes work well for follow up shots. I hit one 3 times in the ribs and it got away in the brush.
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Muzzle brakes work well for follow up shots. I hit one 3 times in the ribs and it got away in the brush.
Quit using them varmint bullets
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