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Old 02-15-2011, 09:38   #51
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Ga,NC ,MI, SC and California Department of Correction used them
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The municipal agency I work for uses Mini-14's and AR15's for the rifle team (not the same as the SWAT team).
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NYS Dept of Corrections use the AR,all officers must qualify with them also.
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My 186 series Mini 14 was from the Nebraska State Police.
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At one time Ruger had the LE/Corrections market all sewed up. Unfortunately, Ruger failed to stay on top of the Mini and continue to let it evolve. The end result is they lost many of those contracts and their edge. It would be nice if Ruger would at least try to get it back. kwg
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My 183 series GB is from the WI Dept of H.H.S. I like to tell people it was Donna Shalalas' personal gat.
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Some Correctional Centers in Virginia used Mini-14's, others 30-30 Winchesters or Marlins or Ar's. They have since all gone to AR's. This was back in the late 70's.
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Old 02-15-2011, 19:21   #59
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Originally Posted by kwg020 View Post
At one time Ruger had the LE/Corrections market all sewed up. Unfortunately, Ruger failed to stay on top of the Mini and continue to let it evolve. The end result is they lost many of those contracts and their edge. It would be nice if Ruger would at least try to get it back. kwg
The major problem is that the Federal government has been giving AR's away like candy. It doesn't matter if you're selling 40 watt plasma rifles for $1,000 each, you can't beet free/subsided low price.

Once the Federal government defaults and can't give away stuff like that then perhaps we may see a transition back to the Mini.

I do know that at least one county has a Mini-14 in the arms room. (That I was installing a camera in.) I couldn't see if it was an ACC-556 or not.
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I saw a show about prisons in Alabama. The guards who patrol the outer gate in EVERY ONE of the prisons they showed .. carry a mini! Plus, in the main cell block at Shelby, the guard in the video room has a mini just in case a riot breaks out.
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Just out of curiosity, why did the Mini become such a popular weapon among law enforcement? Particularly in the case of the various state corrections departments? I would imagine that in the 1950's and 1960's, there were probably hundreds of thousands of surplus M1 Garands and M1 Carbines that could be had for very cheap - probably far cheaper than purchasing new rifles.

FWIW, I recall a scene from "Escape from Alcatraz" (the Clint Eastwood movie), in which one of the guards is shooting at a target attached to a moving clothesline - and he's using an M1 Carbine.

Also, in The Longest Yard (the good one with Burt Reynolds - not the stupid new one with Adam Sandler) - in the scene where the guard captain thinks Reynolds is trying to escape with the crowd, he points what appears to be a Ruger PC-9 carbine at him.
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I'd guess it was that .. plus the benefits of the Mini being affordable/lightweight/compact/high-cap/reliable. There are plenty of other benefits you get from the Mini as well. Another notable thing might be the fact that it's VERY user friendly!

If you are a prison guard and a huge riot breaks out, or a guy is escaping .. if you've got an AR-15 .. you have to fiddle around with different features on different parts of the gun to do your job. Not so complicated to us, but to a guy with his adrenaline rushing .. whom probably RARELY has to use a firearm .. and potentially doesn't do much training with that particular rifle .. it might cause trouble. With a Mini, you charge the chamber and you're ready to roll. The safety won't be engaged if the gun isn't cocked so there's nothing else to fool around with! It's just simple, and plain easy to use under stress!
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:19   #64
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CM, very interesting thread. Also, I'd like to commend you for your addition to this board. Your posts are always polite and informative, unlike a lot of our board "veterans" who have nothing to share but the bad taste in their mouth.
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Old 02-16-2011, 15:19   #66
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Wasnt that part of a bigger article about how they were training regular cops in assisting with terrorist attacks, etc.?

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"Just out of curiosity, why did the Mini become such a popular weapon among law enforcement? Particularly in the case of the various state corrections departments? I would imagine that in the 1950's and 1960's, there were probably hundreds of thousands of surplus M1 Garands and M1 Carbines that could be had for very cheap - probably far cheaper than purchasing new rifles."

30-06 too much
30 carbine too little
.223 just right, also the NATO round
Besides, pop any mini apart and clean it, then any other rifle, it is the KISS autoloader.
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I think another reason for the Minis dominance of the LE/corrections role at one time is that it would have been very familiar to those who were involved with procurement of arms at the time, I.E. WW2/Korea and 'Nam vets.
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Old 02-16-2011, 17:09   #71
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Originally Posted by 23 Blast View Post
Just out of curiosity, why did the Mini become such a popular weapon among law enforcement? Particularly in the case of the various state corrections departments? I would imagine that in the 1950's and 1960's, there were probably hundreds of thousands of surplus M1 Garands and M1 Carbines that could be had for very cheap - probably far cheaper than purchasing new rifles.
As has been mentioned, the 30-06 would be too powerful for such a task.

The 30 carbine would have worked except for the poor terminal ballistics. At the time the only ammo available was FMJ which behaved like a pistol bullet. This may have worked fine in the military where you have the rest of your squad putting out lead, but not so well in a prison where you might have to quickly shoot 3 inmates who are attacking a guard and really don't care if they are shot or not.
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Just to keep the ball rolling, I would like to add another picture of the Mini-14 in the hands of law enforcement, this time as used by an officer of the Irish RUC (Royal Ulster Constabulary). This police force was also in the front lines in the war on terror, although the terrorist force at the time was a domestic one, namely the IRA......
Nice find. What kind of optic is that on there? There is one on there right? Photo's a little fuzzy.....
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^Really. I know the picture is fuzzy, but it almost looks like the scope is some kind of periscope!
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^Really. I know the picture is fuzzy, but it almost looks like the scope is some kind of periscope!
I was thinking the same thing.
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That's about how far back my ATN night vision scope sits on a 10-22, I think the bottom is a mounting rail. Ya wouldn't want that on a .308, it would leave a mark.
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