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Old 05-05-2016, 16:42   #1
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Ruger mini 30 for deer hunting????

Hi guys new to this site looking for success stories about using the mini 30 for North East deer hunting.I have a Rem 700 already but looking for a light carbine for short shots and light as far as hunting ammo I found Federal fusion 123 grain soft point available at local thanks for the help
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I have taken deer in NY state with a cheap Simmons 3-9x40 out to maybe 125 yards.

Just practice at the furthest distance you are comfortable with in your shooting lane.

Use whatever hunting ammo works best in your gun.
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Hi guys new to this site looking for success stories about using the mini 30 for North East deer hunting.I have a Rem 700 already but looking for a light carbine for short shots and light as far as hunting ammo I found Federal fusion 123 grain soft point available at local thanks for the help
That should be perfect! I have used my Mini-30 and my 6.8 (I really wish the market had not turned away from that caliber. It is my favorite!) for deer. Fun rifles and an almost ideal application for them. I wish you success and hope you post pictures of the result!
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I have taken many deer with the 762X39 . afew were even taken with a mini30 . that is when I could get close enough to make sure I could hit one .
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I've watched plenty of deer die from 7.62x39. Mostly from the SKS. The round has enough power. If you look at the ballistics tables you'll see it's close to a .30-30 in performance. PPU offers ammunition that has a round nose like the .30-30 ammo to make it even more similar. An added bonus is its actually quite pleasant to carry around with you all day.

I switch between my Mini-30 and my Springfield 840(.30-30) for deer. It works for me, but I never really try to shoot a long range.
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Yep, it's a good deer gun within 200 yards with good soft point ammo. You've got about 900 ft/lb of energy out that far with that ammo you mentioned, so short shots will be no problem for eastern deer
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That should be perfect! I have used my Mini-30 and my 6.8 (I really wish the market had not turned away from that caliber. It is my favorite!) for deer. Fun rifles and an almost ideal application for them. I wish you success and hope you post pictures of the result!
Umm... The market is booming for the 6.8. However it is mainly the AR crowd giving it success. Ruger abandoned the 6.8 because they didn't want to recognize the SPCII version (not SAMMI recognized but improves on Remington's failure to capitalize on this round) by increasing velocity and pressure. Even though most commercial ammo is still SAMMI spec, Ruger abandoned the 6.8 and it's too bad because they had a good thing going with the Mini, bolt actions and AR. Simply because people wanted an SPC II chamber and Ruger refused them by cutting the 6.8 all together. Now their 6.8 rifles in all configurations command top dollar in this caliber. Too bad they can't see the writing on the wall, but at least they went with the Mini 300BO

To the OP. The x39 is my favorite round. Haven't taken a deer yet with mine but hoping to soon. I don't have the Mini in x39, I have 3 ARs, Sig 556R and AK. If you google "7.62x39 deer", you'll see plenty of success with this round everywhere. Good luck!
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The Fusion MSR ammunition and like navy says, keep the ranges to 150 yds. I like popping them at bow ranges, it's a lot more exciting. If I were hunting muleys in bench lands where ranges go well beyond effective range, I would go with an AR10!
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Originally Posted by A/J/S/USNRet View Post
154 Grain Silver Bear. Mini-30 Tactical. Deer-Black Bear-Hog all one shot stops out to 150 yards. Do your part and the 7.62 x 39 works.
I've heard that the Russian sp bullets don't expand well. Something about the bi-metalic jacket being harder than a copper one. Any truth to that?
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I didn't ask about effectiveness, but rather a comment on the physical condition of recovered bullets you might have. With all your other examinations and attention to detail, I just thought you'd checked out a recovered bullet or two . . . . . . . but I guess not.
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haven't used any russki ammo for hunting but can say that the Winchester 123gr sp sheds the jacket. dead is dead of course even though 1 bounded maybe 20' from a down the gullet shot - that's the one that held the slug I recovered. the other DRT from neck shot at about 100'. bullet went on.
I have handloaded 150gr speer fbsp for larger whitetail (should I ever go again, I shoot all I need in corner of my place - real thicket - with my muzzleload .50 cal) that did well on paper.
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For a ballistic comparison between a 150grn 30-30 and 154grn 7.62x39 at muzzle, 100, 150, and 200yds, check out this thread, post #15.

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger...ml#post1010969
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put a 150gr sp through the 3-6th ribs 1/3 -2/3rd ways up from brisket it won't go far.
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Videos on the subject.

I think he has a few more if you poke around his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/user/maineju...uery=7.62+x+39

I am eyeing this stuff at the moment....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEo6avZd9ys
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The popularity of the 7.62x39mm really skyrocketed in the 80's with the import of cheap SKS and AK rifles. Rugers introduction of the Mini 30 helped bolster the acceptance of the round also. I recall from day one it was always compared to the 30 30 as having similar ballistics. This is somewhat true in the lower bullet weights. Once you start getting into the heavier bullets the 30 30 will excel due to its larger case capacity. If you 30 30 guys chamber your first round with a 150 gr spitzer bullet you will see a marked advantage over the same weight bullet in the 39mm.

A little off topic but the spitzer bullet advantage was the reasoning for the wildcat cartridge developed by Ken Waters. The 7-30 Waters. It was designed using the 30 30 case. Blowing out the shoulder a bit and necking it down to 7mm. Adopted by Federal as a production round it was used in a few lever action guns. Still wearing a round nose it ever really caught on until the single shot TC shooters adopted it. The spitzer 130 and 140 grain Waters had higher velocity, flatter trajectory and greater retained energy than a 30 30 150 grain round nose bullet. The 7-30 Waters TC Encore carbine has been my go to deer rifle for a few decades.

Not bashing the x39mm as I love the cartridge. It is what it is and nothing more. No matter what round you have there is always something other on the shelf that will out perform it. Long live the x39mm.

TC Encore pictured with x39mm barrel. My 7-30 Waters barrel is the same configuration.
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Looks like even Uncle Steve thinks the 7.62 x 39 will perform enough like the 30-30 out to 125 yards to make the Rifle/Cartridge Combo viable for North East Deer Hunting.
I think it would do fine, if one is a decent enough hunter to hunt up close enough. A 125-150grn, 30 Cal bullet traveling between 2,100 and 2,400fps should do just fine with a decent bullet and acceptable shot placement.

Heck, I've got a 30-30 myself even though out here in Colorado we wouldn't consider using it to hunt deer with as the ranges we see out here in the open country are considerably farther and our Mule deer are a tiny bit bigger than your large NE White Tails.

In addition, as I already own a M1 Carbine I can load with 110grn SPs, and a 30-30 levergun, Savage 99 in 300 Savage, Winchester 88 in .308, and Winchester 70 in 30-06 all I can load with 150grn SPs, I figure I've got the 30 Caliber field covered well enough even without a Mini-30. (No, I don't need anything bigger either!)
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if that's a 100 yd target that's some good shooting. my m30 won't do that well, on a good day I can get fairly close though.
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I didn't realize that need had anything to do with rifle purchases COSteve
You certainly got me there. Of my collection, I don't 'need' dozens of them.



But, just let anyone try to talk me out of even one . . . . .
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I don't know about Colorado but I've had whitetail run right over me here in WNC.
believe it or not one doe stopped to sniff my feet - I was laying under my pickup in my drive with my feet & legs sticking out when it trotted up.
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Originally Posted by Marlin 45 carbine View Post
I don't know about Colorado but I've had whitetail run right over me here in WNC.
believe it or not one doe stopped to sniff my feet - I was laying under my pickup in my drive with my feet & legs sticking out when it trotted up.
But as luck goes when hunting, as soon as you put away your long range rifle and get out the carbine, all the deer stay past 300 yards the rest of the day.

The next day, you'll switch to your really heavy long range gun and at the end of the day, you'll be tired from carrying the dead weight around all day and not seeing anything. So you won't be ready for that deer you scare up walking back to your truck at twilight.

Well, maybe you folks are luckier than me...
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