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Old 11-09-2012, 09:18   #26
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I love my Mini 6.8 SPC II. Just the right size and meets my needs for accuracy and reach. All the deer taken last year on my dad's land were with the 6.8. It does have it drawbacks. Its expensive and you need a special bolt in the AR and special Mags. My son too complained about the AR in Afghanistan, you just can't reach out and touch someone. Not sure the 6.8 would meet that need. He wanted to carry an AR10.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:28   #27
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I think the 6.8 is here to stay. Your thoughts?
I agree. I love mine. Built it myself around a 20" SS Bison Armory bbl. Am currently working up some 120gr Hornady SST rounds for it (although Hornady does offer this round in factory loaded ammo as well. It is very good for what it was designed for and that translates to hunting 4 legged animals as well as 2 legged. Good punch and good accuracy out to medium ranges. I never get a shot past 200yds in my neck of the woods anyway.
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Remington abandoned it? Bwahahaa! That's hysterical.

Must not be selling well, or they didn't pick up contracts they thought they would. Honestly 5.56 Nato does just about anything one would want in an intermediate rifle cartridge. But I think as long as AR's are around both cartridges are here to stay.
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Nowadays I tell people if they just buy their ammo lean toward the 6.8SPC, if they reload, and hunt, and shoot longer range look at the 6.5G or (one of the variants). I think within 400 yards either one is a decent cartridge and will give a nice increase to performance, specifically for hunting.

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Remington is all about the 300 blackout now. Reasonable power, nice bullet choice, and uses standard AR bolt and mags. Me I know have both 6.8 and 300 blackout.
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Remington abandoned it? Bwahahaa! That's hysterical.
A lot of people just don't get the story straight. The Army Marksmanship Unit and Special Forces Command got together and came up with an idea for a new cartridge and they got Remington to help develop their idea. They came up with the 6.8SPC. Remington still sells ammo for it but they never offered a rifle chambered for it. That isn't exactly "abandoning" it. Remington is owned by Freedom Group and they are after the high volume sales. I don't think they saw the 6.8SPC as a big enough seller to mass produce. I think history has proved them wrong.
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Originally Posted by woodstock View Post
A lot of people just don't get the story straight. The Army Marksmanship Unit and Special Forces Command got together and came up with an idea for a new cartridge and they got Remington to help develop their idea. They came up with the 6.8SPC. Remington still sells ammo for it but they never offered a rifle chambered for it. That isn't exactly "abandoning" it. Remington is owned by Freedom Group and they are after the high volume sales. I don't think they saw the 6.8SPC as a big enough seller to mass produce. I think history has proved them wrong.
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. I only ever paid attention to the 6.8 after the fact.
I do think both the 6.5G (and variants), and also the 6.8SPC are a definite step up the ladder from the 5.56 in terminal performance. Neither of which will be adopted over the NATO cartridge for military purposes. But they are perfect for law enforcement, wildcat aficionados and hunters who insist on using the AR design.
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I dont think its been talked about yet, but the 6.5x47mm Lapua is what I believe to be the catridge of the futue. Long bullets, high BC,100-140 grain bullets, very close in length to the 5.56x45 round, almost identical velocities of the 5.56, extremely accurate, is as controllabe as the 5.56, etc.

There is even a variant of the marines M40A3 that is chambered in this round.

You cant ask for much more.
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Old 11-15-2012, 14:57   #33
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I was thinking of a shorter 5.56 case a la 300 blackout in 6.8. Hmmmm.
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Originally Posted by Pet-Rock View Post
I dont think its been talked about yet, but the 6.5x47mm Lapua is what I believe to be the catridge of the futue. Long bullets, high BC,100-140 grain bullets, very close in length to the 5.56x45 round, almost identical velocities of the 5.56, extremely accurate, is as controllabe as the 5.56, etc.

There is even a variant of the marines M40A3 that is chambered in this round.

You cant ask for much more.
Why not just go with 260 Remington? You can already buy AR's and blot-action rifles in this caliber. You can also neck down .308 if you really need to. And barrel life seems to be decent.
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Old 11-15-2012, 19:46   #35
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My dad brought up that round when I talked about the Lapua round as well. I dont know anything about that cartridge, but from what I understand it is extremely similiar to the 6.5.

If so, then that round lol
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:23   #36
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I like the 6.8 SPC and have lots of brass and loaded ammo. I thought it would nice to have that performance in an AR without special mags or bolt. My Mini shoots well but why have one rifle when you can have two? Deer hunting will start this weekend and all hunters will again be using the 6.8.
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Remington did produce rifles in 6.8

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A lot of people just don't get the story straight. The Army Marksmanship Unit and Special Forces Command got together and came up with an idea for a new cartridge and they got Remington to help develop their idea. They came up with the 6.8SPC. Remington still sells ammo for it but they never offered a rifle chambered for it. That isn't exactly "abandoning" it. Remington is owned by Freedom Group and they are after the high volume sales. I don't think they saw the 6.8SPC as a big enough seller to mass produce. I think history has proved them wrong.
Maybe I do not understand the prior post. If Remington never produced a rifle in 6.8 can someone please explain the pics in this post?

REMINGTON 700 TACTICAL 6.8SPC

Here is another link to a Remington 6.8 rifle for sale on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=317447356
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Originally Posted by silver78 View Post
Maybe I do not understand the prior post. If Remington never produced a rifle in 6.8 can someone please explain the pics in this post?

REMINGTON 700 TACTICAL 6.8SPC

Here is another link to a Remington 6.8 rifle for sale on gunbroker.

Remington 700 Police 6.8 Rem SPC 26" BBL Discd NIB : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com
What I should have said it Remington never produced an AR15 style rifle for the cartridge, which is what the cartridge was originally designed for. The M700 in your picture was an after thought. To my knowledge they still don't offer an AR15 chambered in 6.8 SPC
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:04   #39
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Remington may not, but their sister company (at the same Remington Arms Plant) Bushmaster does.
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Dinosaur opinion here since I was there for the M1-M14-M16 switch and still hate the 16 for a lot of reasons even though most of my objections have been dealt with. If they had offered the 6.8 to begin with or stayed with the 7.62x51 which is what Stoner intended that gun be for my objections would have been less or non-existent.

The .223 was not intended to give our troops more ammo leading to the spray and pray technique so many enjoy but by LeMay as a light weight rifle for his plane guards. Politics got in the way and we ended up with the round that won't die.

They should have listened to Stoner but they didn't and we are still paying for it.
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Does anyone else feel like Remington or whoever developed the 6.8 didn't quite hit it?

I was looking into a 20" AR in 6.8 for some medium range hunting and long range shooting. After scoping out all the different bullet options, the best BC I came up with was .370. So at normal velocities the 6.8 would struggle to stay supersonic past 700 yards.

Don't you think an 87 grain 6mm bullet would have been a much better choice?

I pretty much trashed the whole 6.8 idea. While it would be GREAT for medium range hunting, the short and stubby bullet doesn't do too well at long range.

Imagine an 87 grain 6mm (.243) A-max moving at 2900 FPS! Now that would have been an improvement.
Thats one of the major reasons I am not ready to abandon my 6x45 upper or reloading dies. With bullets in the mid 80 gr weights its pretty potent and very under estimated in my opinion backed by my experience with it!
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The 6x45 is an interesting cartridge. It may well be my next build. The day before Thanksgiving I killed two deer with my 6.8SPC with 110gr Sierra Pro Hunters, both at about 100 yards so I am guite satisfied with it's usefulness as a hunting round.
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A lot of people just don't get the story straight. The Army Marksmanship Unit and Special Forces Command got together and came up with an idea for a new cartridge and they got Remington to help develop their idea. They came up with the 6.8SPC. Remington still sells ammo for it but they never offered a rifle chambered for it. That isn't exactly "abandoning" it. Remington is owned by Freedom Group and they are after the high volume sales. I don't think they saw the 6.8SPC as a big enough seller to mass produce. I think history has proved them wrong.
I've held a Remmy SPS in 6.8spc (1) It had a 26 inch barrel. I thought it was silly.
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Yep.
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I have my Ruger Mini 6.8 and now I am going to add an AR upper in 6.8 to my stable. I bought an upper and have a bolt group on order. Next to figure out what barrel to use.
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Old 12-05-2012, 13:19   #46
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I would go over to 6.8 Forums and see what they are recommending. Home of the 6.8 SPC - 68forums.com - Home of the 6.8 SPC cartridge!
I personally went with a Bison Armory 20" Stainless SPR Fluted under the handguard with target crown in black CeraKote. 20" SPR Fluted 6.8 SPC Stainless - Bison Armory Store
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:37   #47
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Very nice choice. I was thinking of getting my barrel from Bison. I was thinking 18 inches, medium weight. I bought a bunch of 6.8 ammo when Remington had an employee special on the stuff. I don't work there, but a friend of mine does. Cheapest I ever saw. So I have about 700 factory rounds including a bunch of the match stuff. I also have a lot of empties that I have been hand loading.
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When I was 14 (1977) and christmas was coming up, my dad gave me a sierra reloading manual, a speer manual, a shooter's bible, and some magazines, including a few SOF. He said 'pick a cartridge you like, and I will get you a rifle in it for christmas'. I read every word several times and studied the ballistics tables, and settled on the .270. Still have it today, a mint 700BDL. But the real point of this post is that I remember reading in sof stories of guys having to put a half a mag or more into a charging goo.. I mean nvc, to make them stop. And I remember thinking, Why didn't they just put a .243 bullet on a .222 magnum shell? (nod to the op SevenMM).

The 5.56 nato got by but totally changed battlefield tactics for the worse - to something crazy like 100,000 rounds fired per kill. We came close to changing to 6.8spc a few years ago, but I figure the cost to refit everything is what killed it. Now the alternate list includes the 762x4x WT, the 30AR, the whisper, blackout, etc, etc. I think the perfect mid-range rifle for 2 or 4 legs would be an ar10 in .243 - you have wide bullet selection, universal ammo availability, flat shooting, and 1 shot kills to 500+ yards. You dont need to carry 10k rounds with an effective cartridge..
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The 6.8 would be a relatively easy refit. Change the barrel, bolt and replace the mag followers. The one that makes even more sense to me would be the 6x45 (which I assume is what you mean by the .243 bullet in a .222 magnum case?). Simply replace the barrel and you are done.
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I came across this question from a few months ago

I have a 6.8 from Bison Armory.

It has killed three very large Texas boars this year.

Great round.......

Great rifle


It will take deer or Boar out to 350 yards
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