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Old 12-16-2017, 08:02   #1
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Its seems that the Marlin Camp 9 and 45 are enjoying somewhat of a renaissance. With used prices hitting an average of about 6 big ones for the 9 and 9 for the 45.

So I got the bug. Always wanted a 9 MM carbine. So while I was bored in Australia, I searched daily for one. Found the one I wanted and made my bid. I won and the seller agreed if I paid, he would hold it a couple weeks before shipping and keep the 12 round mag for himself. Illegal in NY.

So I picked it up this Monday. It was a little worn. Stock has lots of wear marks and scratches. The action was good, but these little pieces of something were everywhere from buffer destruction. Took it apart Monday night. Immediately contracted Marlin45 here via private message to ask a few questions. He graciously answered questions about mags, recoil springs and buffers.

I ordered what I needed from Midway and my order arrived yesterday. So today while the wife is busy doing wife stuff. I started to clean things up a bit. I put the whole trigger group into the ultrasonic cleaner. Ran it a couple cycles. Boy did it dirty up the water. So much so that I had to change out the water and clean up the machine. Right now the bolt and assorted parts are in the cleaner. It won't take long before they are done.

The bore was as dirty as the rest. I cleaned it good, but it needs another cleaning to make it right.

Later today I will start on the stock. It won't take long before I am ready to roll. I purchased one box of federal 9mm for the thing. I also have reloading dies. I may just buy a case from where ever I can get it.

Anyone else got the bug?
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as said here before I've both the 9mm and .45acp along with a 1911 colt and a S&W 5904 they interchange most magazines. the best advice I can give another owner is to buy a handgun that interchange mags with. and do an action break down to remove the mag disconnect safety which improves the trigger a bit.
not easy to do takedown assembly pins are needed and the 'tuning fork'' piece must be replaced with a correct i.d. washer of near same thickness filed flat on part of the o.d. unless fairly accomplished handgun tinkerer not recommended. since I do some work on mainly S&W semi-autos along with CZ and couple other makes I've done several along with a trigger group stoning and polish. adding an extra strength recoil spring - 16.5 lbs for the 9mm and 21 lb for the .45 allows the use of +P ammo which particular the .45 really has a wallop. my favorite custom load slug is the Remington 'golden saber', darned costly though. these guns are ideal 'home defense' with the 9mm being my favorite loaded with a megcar 20 round mag. both guns are plenty powerful out to 100 yards and group around 2.5" careful aimed shot.
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I put things back together today. Left work early. They still called me back for a few firewall rule changes, but escape I did.

Assembly with the new parts was a breeze. Stock looks cool with red like color and some fresh linseed oil. Not that you can do much to spruce up some birch. But it was all scratched up.

The Red Dot came in yesterday. I need the rail for it, and some sling mounts. They are due in today, but who knows this time of year. I am off work until the 3rd so if it doesn't get too cold, I should be able to shoot it.

Nobody around here except for Marlin and I that have a Camp 9?

Tried to grab a Camp 45 yesterday. Wouldn't sell to me since I live in New York. His loss since I don't have it and he still does. They are legal here.
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Old 12-21-2017, 18:25   #5
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Went out to the country today and shot the Camp 9 a few times. It was cold about 16 outside with snow cover. Didn't like shooting it too many time since the brass gets lost in the snow. Brass went a little everywhere. No issue there. Shot at a tree and was hitting where I aimed. No bolt hold open. Recoil extremely mild.
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I put things back together today. Left work early. They still called me back for a few firewall rule changes, but escape I did.

Assembly with the new parts was a breeze. Stock looks cool with red like color and some fresh linseed oil. Not that you can do much to spruce up some birch. But it was all scratched up.

The Red Dot came in yesterday. I need the rail for it, and some sling mounts. They are due in today, but who knows this time of year. I am off work until the 3rd so if it doesn't get too cold, I should be able to shoot it.

Nobody around here except for Marlin and I that have a Camp 9?

Tried to grab a Camp 45 yesterday. Wouldn't sell to me since I live in New York. His loss since I don't have it and he still does. They are legal here.
I used to have one. It was a good shooter. The problem with it is that because it is a recoil operated semi-auto (vs. gas) the action gets very dirty, very quickly, as your cleaning regimen proved. The takedown procedure while not overly complicated, requires tools, and is a pain in the A$$ when the gun stops working because of carbon build up about every 200+ rnds. Also, these Camp Marlins have the reputation of abusing the buffer springs, other internal parts, which are not easy to come by. I would suggest you get several sets of the replacement parts that you recently purchased. I don't think Marlin still supports ( I. e - repairs ) these carbines anymore. Another issue with me, like you was the dilemma with the Mags. I live in Ca., and we have the same capacity restrictions that you do. When I originally bought the gun, that was not an issue, and it came with 12 rnd mags. Marlin addressed that by shortening the capacity to 4 rnd mags. To me a 4 rnd semi auto is pretty pointless, and a pain in the A$$ for constant mag and ammo reloads in the field for plinking. The aftermarket mags ( 10 rnd) were slow in coming out, and by that time, I had lost interest. Another thing is that the Camp 9 mm uses Mags in common with the S&W model 59 pistol, which although reliable, is terribly outdated.

I still liked the concept of the Carbine/pistol common caliber and Mags, so I went with Ruger. I had a P-95 pistol with Ca. compliant 10 rnd mags. I lucked out about 5 yrs. ago and saw a used PC 9 carbine on a dealers rack for $400, and snapped it up. I like the fact that the Ruger has a synthetic stock, and the mags are from the same manufacturer. This works for me.

If I were to go with Marlin again I would probably go with the 45 ACP version. The 1911 pistol is timeless ( unlike the S&W 59), and using high quality 1911 mags for the Marlin and the pistol is seamless.

I do however wish you well. Maybe you can find a S&W 59, or 459 pistol as a mate to your camp 9mm.
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factory loads vary widely in use of clean burning powders - with the cleaner burning ammo (or hand loads using power pistol) many more than 200 rounds can be fired before a take down is needed. all the cheaper/foreign ammo seems quite dirty with exception of IMI and PMP.
white box winny ain't so clean either.
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Left the rifle in the truck overnight. It was well locked in the back. The knob for the cover was frozen shut. Warmer today and it unfroze. Took it apart, a screwdriver affair and gave it another good cleaning. Another coat of linseed oil on the stock. Its behind the stove now drying.

The mount came in for the red dot. I mounted it after I cleaned the rifle and re-assembled. I will finish the mount and laser sight it once the stock dries.

Got a cooler from the attic and placed my holiday beer supply within. Put that on the porch so I wouldn't have to run to the basement for a cold one as often when company comes over. Whoops, this belongs elsewhere.

The basement is cold this time of year, about 50 degrees give or take a few. So the stock won't dry properly in the basement. I have my work benches, man space, office, 2nd fridge (only run it during the holiday's) plus a freezer. Its about 2/3 finished. Keep a TV down there plus all my home network gear.

Purchased about 500 rounds of cheapo Remington ammo yesterday. My second mag which was on Midway back order arrived today as well. I will shoot again next week.
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Hey guys;to whom it may concerne;I was just on Midway USA website and they have mags for 5904 pishtolls,and are compatible with any thing in 59 series if you follow their mag ads.mecgar mags in 15,20,32 rds too!
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Thanks. That is what I just purchased. I will be ordering a few more.
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I bought a Ruger PC4 a couple years ago. Does that count? :-)
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Its seems that the Marlin Camp 9 and 45 are enjoying somewhat of a renaissance. With used prices hitting an average of about 6 big ones for the 9 and 9 for the 45.

So I got the bug. Always wanted a 9 MM carbine. So while I was bored in Australia, I searched daily for one. Found the one I wanted and made my bid. I won and the seller agreed if I paid, he would hold it a couple weeks before shipping and keep the 12 round mag for himself. Illegal in NY.

So I picked it up this Monday. It was a little worn. Stock has lots of wear marks and scratches. The action was good, but these little pieces of something were everywhere from buffer destruction. Took it apart Monday night. Immediately contracted Marlin45 here via private message to ask a few questions. He graciously answered questions about mags, recoil springs and buffers.

I ordered what I needed from Midway and my order arrived yesterday. So today while the wife is busy doing wife stuff. I started to clean things up a bit. I put the whole trigger group into the ultrasonic cleaner. Ran it a couple cycles. Boy did it dirty up the water. So much so that I had to change out the water and clean up the machine. Right now the bolt and assorted parts are in the cleaner. It won't take long before they are done.

The bore was as dirty as the rest. I cleaned it good, but it needs another cleaning to make it right.

Later today I will start on the stock. It won't take long before I am ready to roll. I purchased one box of federal 9mm for the thing. I also have reloading dies. I may just buy a case from where ever I can get it.

Anyone else got the bug?
I'd love one in either caliber myself, someday. Haven't found one when I had the money for one.

Keep us informed on how she shoots!

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Finally got around to unpacking my 9MM loading components and dies. All looked just fine. Looked up some data on the 9 for OAL so I could adjust the dies a bit to make a couple dummy rounds for testing. The bullets are147 grain FMJ's. Loaded a couple for testing with no primer or powder. They both feed properly and fit the mag. It so freaking cold in the basement. Have a couple heat vents to keep things from freezing, but with the outside at negative I didn't want to spend too much time down there. Still need small pistol primers. Was thinking of loading with AA7.
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For plinking, I figured No 7 would do. First I have lots of it and its a little slower to make better use of the longer barrel. Alliant makes a good powder.
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I used alliant unique for 9/45 rounds-pretty much cover all pistols/revolvers-maybe a little like lite beer for magnums but pretty versatile!When the obummer times took hold out here in the pnw-we could'nt get any more unique-so after researching all kinds of pistol loads-I switched to hodgdens universal clays-and don't miss anything about alliant powders.
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I think I have a pound of unique. To start I am going to just use the powders that I have on hand. Need to free up space on the shelf for now. Have a good supply of No 5, No 7, and No 9.
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power pistol is basically an easier-to-meter unique.
some years back I had (ran out and no longer made) a winny shot-shell powder that was a flake shape. very clean burning stuff.
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https://imgur.com/KCLiYjS

click the link for view of my nines. marlin camp (several hi-cap mags) my S&W 5903 (interchange mags with camp) and my Russki Makarov.
sort of looking for a 'shark tooth' flash buster to fit to muzzle of camp
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Pretty nice. I loaded up a few reloads yesterday using No 7, 6.4 grains of powder and a 147 FMJ. It was -17 this morning and about -2 now. I might wait a bit to test. I am off to Dayton next week for a work trip. So next week won't be good. Oh the joy of winter. On a good note, got my Bluetooth mouse working with SuSE 42.3. With all the uproar that Free caused he gave me a couple tips on Linux that were spot on.

Marlin45 thats a nice looking carbine!
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I think I've owned every 9mm carbine at one time or another. I seem to recall the magazine safety lever was powered with a loose spring only held in by the lever and only as long as the trigger group was installed. Was Lara's HD gun for awhile fitted with a homemade pouch and mecgars. Fed it department Gold Dots. Sold it to fund a Ruger PC9.
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I have a holo sight on my 9 - suits me fine. left the factory irons on and drilled small hole in the butt of the Choate folder to fit an allen used to attach the holo to the rail. in case it should take a dump but it appears sturdy design/build.
I'm changing the irons on my .45 to remove the rear peep I installed - although it shoots fine when sights align seems to take more time than open rear sight. I'll try to post photo of my .45 when complete the new install.
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I put a simple bushnell red dot on a top rail. It shoots pretty nice.
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No Camp Carbine but I got a Ruger PC Carbine with a Sig Sauer Romeo5 red dot on top for Christmas from the wife. They are fun little guns.
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