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Old 01-28-2020, 12:48   #1
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Hornady Leverloution Powder

Has anyone loaded up some lever rounds using this powder? My dies and bullets will be here Thursday. I'm going powder shopping tomorrow. My application is 30-30 150 grain @ 2500 fps.
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I drive the 30 miles to Sportsmans Warehouse for powder. Came home with a pound of Hodgdon CFE 223. Man what nice powder fine spherical in composition. So fine you must make sure and swab the necks out to not have any clinging spheres. On top is a speer hot core small flat point 150 grain. I haven't shot my model 94 for almost 20 years. The zero is off low left but my 3 round check out was a clover leaf. I love an accurate rifle or shootin iron in this case. They didn't have the lever revolution powder but this will work just fine. I went right up to max load 36.8 at 2400FPS.
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I found CFE to be a slow burning powder. In a MIni the accuracy was so so. I don't know the velocity. In the 16 inch AR's the accuracy was also so so. I was shooting 55 grain bullets. IN a model 94 and a 150 grain bullet it is probably a great powder. I don't know what the burn rate is with Lever Revolution is compared to CFE but if push comes to shove the CFE in a 30-30 is probably a go to powder.

Check out the reloading tables for each powder and make your decision. They are both very close to each other. If you have a longer barrel you could benefit from shooting the LVR for some more velocity. Here is a link. kwg
Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data | Hodgdon Reloading
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Mini accuracy is always so-so. I was reminded of that with my old 30-30 cloverleafing at 50 yards! The powder had less recoil than I remembered for the lever gun. I have some old factory ammo I should do a comparison of both accuracy and recoil. It's weird powder though like spherical dust. I went for the leverrevolution or the H LVR but they had neither, this was my third choice.
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Mini accuracy is always so-so. I was reminded of that with my old 30-30 cloverleafing at 50 yards! The powder had less recoil than I remembered for the lever gun. I have some old factory ammo I should do a comparison of both accuracy and recoil. It's weird powder though like spherical dust. I went for the leverrevolution or the H LVR but they had neither, this was my third choice.

Fast is good in my research finding the right powder for a Mini. RL10x, AA2015 and IMR3031 for the best accuracy in my Mini's. You will take a hit for velocity.


Yes, CFE is more like a fine powder than gun powder in the traditional sense.


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CFE223 really begins to shine with heavy bullets and longer barrels. My go-to load for my match ar's is 25.8-26.0 grn of cfe223, and a 69 grn matchking seated to just fit in the magazine. That load shoots to .5 MOA with regularity.
I have no exp. with the leverevolution or superformance powders.
I have been told that CFE223 is a derivative of WC846, for what it's worth....

E.T.A.- My load uses rem 7 1/2 primers, and is lighltly crimped with the LFCD.
I did try BLC(2) in a minty winchester model 64, .30-30. With 150 grain roundnose bullets(Hornady), It was shooting just under 1 MOA using the factory irons.
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CFE223 really begins to shine with heavy bullets and longer barrels. My go-to load for my match ar's is 25.8-26.0 grn of cfe223, and a 69 grn matchking seated to just fit in the magazine. That load shoots to .5 MOA with regularity.
I have no exp. with the leverevolution or superformance powders.
I have been told that CFE223 is a derivative of WC846, for what it's worth....

E.T.A.- My load uses rem 7 1/2 primers, and is lighltly crimped with the LFCD.
I did try BLC(2) in a minty winchester model 64, .30-30. With 150 grain roundnose bullets(Hornady), It was shooting just under 1 MOA using the factory irons.
Mighty fine shootin with irons! I can't see them clearly anymore. I bought the Weaver side mount for my 94. Selected convergence is @100 yards. SO sighting in at 50 I'm two inches left. The volumetric powder measure loves this stuff too. Very good results.
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Thanks, Chill!
As long as you can see the front sight in focus, you can still shoot irons.
Once the measure is set up for the charge I'm using of ball powder, I really don't check them after that, and concentrate on operating the measure the same way each time. I might weigh every 20th one or so.
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I check at the end of the run LOL. maybe 1/2 grain variation but these are .6 under max recommended. 36.2 grains. I should get some of those 1x or 2x glasses and try them. I do have the diopter from merit corporation with a suction cup it to my distance glasses and crank down the aperture till you can see them both. I have dots and glass on everything now.
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Many of my shooting friends that wear glasses had a special pair made that provide perfect focus at about 3 feet, or whatever the distance is from their shooting eye to the front sight post, with good success.
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CFE223 really begins to shine with heavy bullets and longer barrels. My go-to load for my match ar's is 25.8-26.0 grn of cfe223, and a 69 grn matchking seated to just fit in the magazine. That load shoots to .5 MOA with regularity.
I have no exp. with the leverevolution or superformance powders.
I have been told that CFE223 is a derivative of WC846, for what it's worth....

E.T.A.- My load uses rem 7 1/2 primers, and is lighltly crimped with the LFCD.
I did try BLC(2) in a minty winchester model 64, .30-30. With 150 grain roundnose bullets(Hornady), It was shooting just under 1 MOA using the factory irons.

LEVER and BLC(2) set right next to each other on the burn rate chart I have with LEVER being the slower of the 2.


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I was wrong. Lever and CFE223 set right next to each other with Lever being the slowest one. BLC(2) is just under CFE223 being slightly faster. Here is how it is on my chart. In my humble opinion CFE223 is too slow for 55 grain .223/5.56. But, in a 30-30 I think CFE and BLC(2) would be da bomb.

127. BLC(2)
128. CFE223
129. LeveRevolution

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