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Old 11-21-2020, 09:50   #26
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Well I've had it for two days
That sucks. I hope you get well soon.
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Old 11-22-2020, 00:34   #27
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When feeling up to it, I would like hearing more about it from someone first hand. I picked up a cold back in late March, early April that hit me like no other. Getting only a couple hours sleep total in 72 hours. No sign of fever that I could tell, so I never got tested. But self quarantined for 2 weeks to be sure my 80 something year old mother wouldn't get it.

We were led to believe millions would die if we didn't shut the country down immediately. Was it true? Sweden didn't shut down, tank their economy, or go trillions more in debt. We did....and 8.5 months later end up having 55% higher case rates.

As I mentioned, my state has had a mask mandate since June but reported cases are spiking again.
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Old 11-22-2020, 02:54   #28
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I do not want to get it.
However the data seems to reflect that it has a morbidity rate about that of the normal flu, however it is far more contagious it appears.

I have only one person I know that has Covid. He is 36, and it knocked him down pretty hard, a few rough weeks, but he says he's feeling better. Not sure what if any treatment he has done.

At work some people have lost loved ones, but what many people do not want to talk about is the health and age of those who have passed away, and what was the "normal" rate of death prior to KungFlu?

I started digging around in the CDC data, and they are doing their level best to HIDE death rates, and focus on infection rates....

Why is that, just like the good retired Professor/Dr. pointed out, infection rates at this point do not a pandemic make, it's about the death rate folks. All about the death rate. AND only the death rate over the "norm" the nation sees year to year to year. (We have data that is very accurate back to 1950.) Prior to that, the data is good, but not digitized.

I have to say, when the "media elite" attacks any message that does not fit their agenda, I have to stop and wonder why they are not interested in reality, but focused on the big propaganda lie? (Yes, that's a double negative.. ) LOL

I hope everyone who is infected has the best possible treatment and comes out of this alive and well.
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Sweden didn't shut down, tank their economy, or go trillions more in dept.
Wrong.

Sweden's economy suffered great harm even though they failed to shut down.

Now, with an economy damaged and an insanely high death toll (Over 6000 compared to about 300 in neighboring Norway) and hospitals overwhelmed with new cases, Sweden is finally enacting restrictions.

In plain language, Sweden failed.

https://news.yahoo.com/swedish-coron...162125921.html
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I do not want to get it.
However the data seems to reflect that it has a morbidity rate about that of the normal flu, however it is far more contagious it appears.
And since it's far more contagious, far more people get infected.

And since far more people get infected--far more people die.

Glad I could help you sort out your thinking on this.

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When feeling up to it, I would like hearing more about it from someone first hand. I picked up a cold back in late March, early April that hit me like no other. Getting only a couple hours sleep total in 72 hours. No sign of fever that I could tell, so I never got tested. But self quarantined for 2 weeks to be sure my 80 something year old mother wouldn't get it.

We were led to believe millions would die if we didn't shut the country down immediately. Was it true? Sweden didn't shut down, tank their economy, or go trillions more in dept. We did....and 8.5 months later end up having 55% higher case rates.

As I mentioned, my state has had a mask mandate since June but reported cases are spiking again.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29...to-stop-covid/
It's not going away. Even if a vaccine is discovered (poor anti-vaxers! - lol), there will always be another one. (Places like Asia and Africa seem to be hot-beds.)

One has to look at it realistically. The lethality just isn't there with this one (unlike e.g. AIDS). It's all about worshipping fear, which is pretty much the highest priority of the pussy-whip. Fear is essentially "the long arm of the pussy-whip". Oh, and another one who is all about fear is Big Brother, of course.
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Old 11-22-2020, 09:56   #32
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The lethality of this one isn't even holding its own against the basic flu that we've lived with for how many years?
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Old 11-23-2020, 19:16   #33
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At present, 6,400 deaths in Sweden's 10.2 million population. Meaning 1 out of 1,600 people. I wouldn't consider that an incredibly high death rate. In fact it's slightly better than the US. Every country that had a Covid outbreak suffered economically.

But Sweden didn't tank their economy intentionally like we did. They didn't close all "non essential" businesses and schools. They didn't hand out full pay plus bonuses to healthy people and require them to shelter in place. So they didn't need lie to their citizens about any 2 weeks to flatten the curve BS.

I don't know the source from the article that shows 15k+ new cases per day. According to
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/
At it's highest peak the number was never even half that. What it does show is about 4x as many new cases than the peak in late June. That's where the media would have us focus our attention. But scroll down to the daily deaths graph and it illustrates something very different.

With new spikes happening globally, a second round was inevitable. Yet the deaths look more like a ripple than the wave they had earlier this year. So if that is what failure looks like I hope the trend continues. Maybe we can learn something but I doubt it.

The virus has infected less than 4% of the US population. The retired Prof says the average age of death is 82. The CDC data shows if you are under 50, your risk of dying of it is 1 in 5,000 or less. For all we know the lockdowns could be killing more people than we are saving. Collateral damage is hard to estimate. So WTF are we doing to ourselves?
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Old 11-23-2020, 19:43   #34
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Old 11-23-2020, 19:57   #35
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LOL!

Trying to defend Sweden is not within the realm of sanity.

They have killed six times as many people as the three Nordic nations that surround them put together.

Put together.

Anybody get just how incredible that is?

Anybody have any respect for human life?

Wake up.
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Anybody have any respect for human life?
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Not yours.
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Not yours.
In other words, not if its "world" is a basement or a shoebox! lol
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Killed? Just like when Bite-Me said our President killed over 220K people with the "Trump Virus". You guys should hang out.
Don't care if people die is what leftists always say.
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logos: Nope no respect for life at all, especially if the call comes from someone
who has their head shoved firmly up their rectum.
Who are you to derogatorily dispute a claim about anything.
Are you the new swamp swami proclaimed purveyor of all truth and
knowledge I think not.
Go blow your pied piper device somewhere else as I ain't buying it.
The all seeing eye becomes the all discharging douchbag.
Have a terrible day.
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In other words, not if its "world" is a basement or a shoebox! lol

Nah, it's a Rafal Ganowicz kind of thing is all.
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logos: Nope no respect for life at all, especially if the call comes from someone
who has their head shoved firmly up their rectum.
Who are you to derogatorily dispute a claim about anything.
Are you the new swamp swami proclaimed purveyor of all truth and
knowledge I think not.
Go blow your pied piper device somewhere else as I ain't buying it.
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Have a terrible day.
You prove again that there are some people here who live in a dream world.

In their dreams, Trump won the election, Covid is a fiction and wearing a mask to protect yourself and others is bending a knee to some imagined dictator.

This forum must be their last refuge in a world where reality terrifies and paralyzes them.

Fear is the mind killer. Don't let your fears dominate you. Face the REAL world with courage.
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That is exactly what we're doing lil' butty... just not the world according to you.
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COVID-19 has dropped life expectancy in Sweden by the biggest amount since 1944, as a top official warns there is 'no signs' of herd immunity
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... the country is now in the midst of a second wave with soaring COVID-19 cases, and has admitted that it was wrong to expect its no-lockdown policy would prevent another surge.

On Tuesday, the country's top epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, said: "We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now," ...
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Best keep your mask on while staying at home alone for Thanksgiving little nazi.
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freeble you gotta give up the Mostly Sh!t Network and try some real news
for a change.
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