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Old 04-09-2020, 14:33   #1
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Fake online gun stores

I wasn't sure where to post this, but since I hang out in the Ruger Mini section most often it seems like this is good a place as any.

Fake stores with P.O. Boxes have been with us for a while, but when trying to find gun related things lately I'm seeing a lot more. Here are two that are absolute con jobs. They just want your personal info. That's what they're selling.

- BattleHawkArmory.com

- GunProDeals.com

(I'll add more as I run across them)
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Old 04-09-2020, 16:05   #2
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you are sadly mistaken.

gunprodeals is legit.

not a store but a seller that often has low prices.

drop ship type companies are not fake, just different, maintaining no inventory.

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Until we talk about them we don't know. I know drop shipping is a standard practice but I like a brick and mortar store front. That tells me they are serious about customer service. This is the first time I have heard of gunprodeals.

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Originally Posted by mini14collector View Post
you are sadly mistaken.

gunprodeals is legit.

not a store but a seller that often has low prices.

drop ship type companies are not fake, just different, maintaining no inventory.
Drop Ship companies are the new virus... spreading fast!

NOPE! I'm not mistaken I've tried to deal with both of them recently. Very unprofessional. They don't know what they're doing, and are setup by Internet companies who are most interested in getting your data... who you are, Phone, Address, credit card info etc. And then they jack you around when you try to complete an order.

Gun Pro Deals is the absolute worst gun related online company I've tried to work with in my life.

Stay far away!

Gun pro deals canceled my order without warning. When I called to ask why, the person was nasty, spoke very disrespectfully, wondering why I didn't send a copy of my Illinois FOID card. I told her the site didn't ask and I was trying to buy bullets, which are not regulated. I said if and when I would want to purchase ammo from them I'd send a copy of my FOID.

They just want to know everything about you for a database that has nothing to do with their business. I told them to cancel my account and delete all the data I had provided while checking out... and not to sell my information.

These sites are becoming a nuisance... created by easy setup website solutions. Customer service sucks. They have worse manners than a McDonald's Drive-up worker whose just pulled a double shift. Basically clueless... trying to make a fast buck with low advertised prices and absolutely no service infrastructure.

I'm happily 100% right. You might get lucky a time or two, but dealing with these fly-by-nights will eventually bite you in the a$$.

The two aforementioned "companies" are on my shirt list for time and all eternity. Neither have been around long but they both have too many cases open against them with the Better Business Bureau for as little time as they've been around.

Learn to read the tea leaves!
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Drop Ship companies are the new virus... spreading fast!

NOPE! I'm not mistaken I've tried to deal with both of them recently. Very unprofessional. They don't know what they're doing, and are setup by Internet companies who are most interested in getting your data... who you are, Phone, Address, credit card info etc. And then they jack you around when you try to complete an order.

Gun Pro Deals is the absolute worst gun related online company I've tried to work with in my life.

Stay far away!

Gun pro deals canceled my order without warning. When I called to ask why, the person was nasty, spoke very disrespectfully, wondering why I didn't send a copy of my Illinois FOID card. I told her the site didn't ask and I was trying to buy bullets, which are not regulated. I said if and when I would want to purchase ammo from them I'd send a copy of my FOID.

They just want to know everything about you for a database that has nothing to do with their business. I told them to cancel my account and delete all the data I had provided while checking out... and not to sell my information.

These sites are becoming a nuisance... created by easy setup website solutions. Customer service sucks. They have worse manners than a McDonald's Drive-up worker whose just pulled a double shift. Basically clueless... trying to make a fast buck with low advertised prices and absolutely no service infrastructure.

I'm happily 100% right. You might get lucky a time or two, but dealing with these fly-by-nights will eventually bite you in the a$$.

The two aforementioned "companies" are on my shirt list for time and all eternity. Neither have been around long but they both have too many cases open against them with the Better Business Bureau for as little time as they've been around.

Learn to read the tea leaves!
It appears they have successfully ticked you off. That's too bad it went south like that.

I just googled them and this popped up.
https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...yne-in-1454736

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Old 04-09-2020, 19:40   #6
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Yep, and if you can get into the deep BBB files Gun Pro Deals doens't look like such a good deal. The site was buggy for me and doesn't have the security features we should expect in these times.

All is well that ends well. I found what I needed at Bud's Gun Shop. They had been out of the product just last week, so I'm glad I checked today. It cost me about $3.00 more total at Buds, but his prices were the next lowest. Bud's site has all the security and service a guy can ask for and the purchase went off without a hitch.

I will also give thumps up and praise to people and new business that are legit and do a good job... and I can tell people are trustworthy.
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Oh, and I'm not opposed to the drop-ship model. It just needs to be done right. The farther you get into a google search for a product the more you'll see these Gun Pro Deal type sites. They all look alike because they're all using the same buggy software from a companay that's collecting your data.
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On the other hand the drop-ship model is ruining eBay because it's not being done right. You buy something you think is from a "Traditional" eBay seller. And then it comes to your door from Amazon. I don't care for that. If I wanted to buy it from Amazon I would have done it myself.

As for firearm related in particular... heads up folks! These mom and pop teams that act as go-between for warehouses have to follow the rules of the warehouse. They're basically contract workers and have little control over their business.

I've come across others that wouldn't ship ammo to Illinois. I was a able to straighten one Gunbroker seller out just last year, so now he does ship to Illinois.

But imagine these drop-ship people becoming the norm and driving traditional gun shops out of business. We would be dealing with gun and ammo sellers who are as ignorant as the anti-gunners.

If just one county or one large municipality passes laws that forbid shipment of ammo, high cap mags, or just bullets for reloading, then that seller will put your entire state on the Do Not Ship List.

That's what happened to me when trying to order reloading bullets from BattleHawkArmory.com. I have the misfortune of living in a state that has Chicago in it.

IMO Chicago should become part of Canada. They would get along just fine. Anywhere south of Kankakee and down to the tip near Paducah Kentucky is more conservative and gun friendly. It would be a happier Illinois.

We have a vested interest in working to stop these little non-companies from popping up all over the country. Their prices are cheaper than most, but the cost is too high in the long run. If a city or county in your state passes their own anti-gun laws related to shipping, you could be next to join the list forbidden shipping destinations.

It's easy to tell the good ones from the bad ones. The bad ones say they won't ship to Illinois. It couldn't be easier to sort them out.
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Old 04-10-2020, 20:28   #9
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Beck: Try duckduckgo.com instead of google, duck does not track your searches.
Also try umatrix it will show you every site connected to the site your looking at.
It will allow you to choose what sites can look at your data. Privacy Badger is also good.
Duck will work with any browser. umatrix works with firefox and chrome or avast secure browser.
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Old 04-12-2020, 15:08   #10
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I'm not worried about Internet tracking per se. I'm worried about the information we give to these "Fake" ammo outlets while placing an order. Both of the sites I mentioned cancelled my orders after they had all my info...CC card number, shipping address, phone number, penis size, etc. But there are so many more sites like this on the web.

Some are incompetent and unprofessional. While some are just fronts to collect the data you normally give a merchant when making a purchase.

All of them are reinforcing a false rumor that's gaining steam... saying that you can't ship ammo or even projectiles to Illinois. We have no such laws forbidding online purchases of these things, and unlike California we don't even need to have them shipped to an FFL. I've been buying live ammo online for years and still do. It comes right to my door via UPS or FEDEX. We don't even have so sign for it. they leave it at the door like any other package.

The bottom line is that your state could be next.

Maybe this should be in the political section of the forum since the rules these subcontractors have to abide by could also be another underhanded backdoor attempt at undermining the 2nd Amendment.

Our rights are being attacked from all angles... while we sleep.
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A lot of folks are turning to the 80% builds and getting kits shipped with no FFL. And good on them for doing it, politicians in left-leaning states are already panicking because they can't shut down the gun trade.
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