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Old 04-28-2019, 20:20   #1
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1812 double barrel shotgun

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Old 04-29-2019, 16:46   #2
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won't click, or load, or anything.......
youtube clip must have a social disease, my security spat it out like a rotten raisin
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Clip is fine.

But this one works too:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/sam...ridge-in-1812/
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amazing that by 1812 Europe had a few "cartridge" guns in the works, and CRAFTSMEN were turning out fine grade flint and a few percussion smoothbores and rifles.
The U.S. on the other hand, being a fledgeling nation was using the 1795 Springfield as its military mainstay, and the 1816 "Mississippi" Rifle (another Springfield / Harpers Ferry) was still a dream.
On the Civillian side, Craftsmen were turning out fine rifles, totally unaffordable to all but the wealthier citizens, and the "common" frontiersman was still using Brown Besses that were literally falling apart from age, and low grade "Trade guns" to make money and feed their families...........
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This is interesting.

The Harper's Ferry Model 1803 rifle was the first standard rifle (as opposed to a smoothbore musket), made by an American armory.
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... 16th and 17th century weapons were muzzle loaded, and the black powder that was used at the time would quickly foul the barrel. Rifles, with their tight fitting rounds, would quickly become unusable. Smooth bore muskets with looser fitting rounds were much less accurate, but did not suffer from this problem. Armies therefore tended to favor smooth bore weapons.

The U.S. military did however take note of the accuracy of rifles. The accuracy of American long rifles like the Pennsylvania and Kentucky rifles far exceeded that of any smooth bore weapon. Rifles would not replace muskets on the battlefield until the invention of the Minie Ball solved the problem of barrel fouling, but prior to that, many rifles were used by U.S. forces.

The first rifles used were imported from foreign gun makers. In 1803, Secretary of War Henry Dearborn wrote about the utility of a short-barreled rifle, it being easier to charge enemy positions with, and "less likely to foul by firing." He specified that the new rifle that should "not exceed 33 inches" and have a ball "one-thirtieth of a pound weight, about .54 caliber."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpers_Ferry_Model_1803

From what I can find, Kentucky and Pennsylvania rifles were in common use on the frontier, but so far haven't found how much more expensive they would have been than muskets like Brown Bess.

Read awhile back that Brown Bess was a mainstay of the Mexican Army in Texas in 1836.
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a friend of mine lives in the bend of Tallasehatchee Creek (see Indian Wars) and tilled a decomposing lock off an evidently Native brown bess out of his garden one year.

that's how the local University realized that Tallasehatchee was a "running" battle that covered much more ground than originally believed.
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neither the youtube vid or the 'forgotten weapons' vids would open due to copyright claim. the weapons site had the printed info - man must have been a genius, a 'renaissance man' of sorts. balloon ferry service between Paris and London - that's dreaming big.
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