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If she shoots good and she's paid for, what else matters.
Thanks for the warm welcome. I've actually been here before, but heck if I could remember my password!
This mint wood top shot 1.5" groups @ 100 yds. with Win. white box of all things. I added the Mason flash suppressor / muzzle brake, and the groups shifted 8" up, 8" right and measured 3-4 ".
That time I was shooting the same ammo, but bought in the 100 pack. Would the 20 round boxes possibly be loaded better?
I will find out this W/E if the weather cooperates.
Randy
This mint wood top shot 1.5" groups @ 100 yds. with Win. white box of all things. I added the Mason flash suppressor / muzzle brake, and the groups shifted 8" up, 8" right and measured 3-4 ".
That time I was shooting the same ammo, but bought in the 100 pack. Would the 20 round boxes possibly be loaded better?
I will find out this W/E if the weather cooperates.
Randy
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xring,
Thanks for the picture. Looked pretty spiffy! As for the 20-pack vs. 100-pack question, it's my personal and professional opinion that you can't judge ammo that easily.
As an engineer in the manufacturing world, I expect that all of Winchester ammo falls within their acceptable manufacturing standards. Expect some lots to be better than others, but also expect that the variances between lots will fall within Winchester's acceptance tests.
Since quality control costs $$$$$$, folks spend high dollars for premium ammo because they need for the ammo to be consistent, i.e., no surprises because of ammo variances. Then if they miss, the blame lies on other factors. Like maybe too damn cold to hold the rifle still, or, say, a sudden gust of wind at trigger pull.
But if the bullet weight and powder load doesn't work for your rifle, you won't get accuracy no matter how much the ammo costs. What I'm saying is, try some other loads and see how consistent they are for your rifle.
Sorry, when we get into accuracy, the answers are not easy. And human factors are the hardest to pin down. I have more bad days at the range than good ones. I can feel good because on my bad days, I still put rounds within 5 inches at 100 yards, iron sights. The 5 in 100 is my own personal worst-case "measuring stick". If I do worse than that, I've got to re-evaluate every damn thing.
KC
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Thanks for the picture. Looked pretty spiffy! As for the 20-pack vs. 100-pack question, it's my personal and professional opinion that you can't judge ammo that easily.
As an engineer in the manufacturing world, I expect that all of Winchester ammo falls within their acceptable manufacturing standards. Expect some lots to be better than others, but also expect that the variances between lots will fall within Winchester's acceptance tests.
Since quality control costs $$$$$$, folks spend high dollars for premium ammo because they need for the ammo to be consistent, i.e., no surprises because of ammo variances. Then if they miss, the blame lies on other factors. Like maybe too damn cold to hold the rifle still, or, say, a sudden gust of wind at trigger pull.
But if the bullet weight and powder load doesn't work for your rifle, you won't get accuracy no matter how much the ammo costs. What I'm saying is, try some other loads and see how consistent they are for your rifle.
Sorry, when we get into accuracy, the answers are not easy. And human factors are the hardest to pin down. I have more bad days at the range than good ones. I can feel good because on my bad days, I still put rounds within 5 inches at 100 yards, iron sights. The 5 in 100 is my own personal worst-case "measuring stick". If I do worse than that, I've got to re-evaluate every damn thing.
KC
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That is strange! Your mini shoots the opposite everyone else's mini! As long as the ammo you are shooting is the exact same bullet, i.e. the same bullet configuration, wt, brand etc the box size shouldn't make any diff. The muzzle brake only dampens the harmonics, and muzzle flip of the barrel. You backed up the barrel with a block of wood when driving out the pin? So as not to tweek the barrel? Also you could have tweeked your sight when removing your pin? If it dosent shoot better this W/E You can try taking the brake off (saving the pin) and see if it shoots better. My mini shot 4 1/2" groups using Winchester 45 gr varmint loads. After installing the brake, we shot 2 1/4" groups.
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