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If you can't figure out how to do this, you have no business keeping a gun for self defense, because you are too damned inept to use it in a safe and responsible manner. A Lee Handloader is a Whopping $20 and loads 50 rds per hour. A used press, dies and powder scale is a $50 or less deal on Ebay, and loads 150 rds per hour. At a savings of say, 15c per shot, 150 rds per hour is $22 an hour, tax free. For $200 or so, you can get a used, or even in some cases, NIB (new in box) Lee progressive loader, which can load 600 rds per hour, on EBay or one of these gun forums. Then you will be saving $90 an hour, bud.
 

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Is that so... Let me do the math here...

1000 .310 cal bullets = about $200
200 7.62x39 brass (assuming you can find and reload them all 5 times) = about $100

Before adding powder, primers, initial equipment cost, lost/damaged brass, and time invested that puts you at $300 for 1000 rounds... Meanwhile, 1000 round cases of factory ammo can be had for less than $200 to about $230 for nicer stuff.

You're my favorite, Tap. Keep up the educational postings.
 

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If you can't figure out how to do this, you have no business keeping a gun for self defense, because you are too damned inept to use it in a safe and responsible manner.
What? :eek: :blink: :angry:

How about: Lack of time or lack of a safe space to do the work in. Are just 2 good reasons for not re-loading... ;)

With your logic: One could say that if you do not do all of the work on your car; you should not drive????? (What about race car dirvers?)

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What? :eek: :blink: :angry:

How about: Lack of time or lack of a safe space to do the work in. Are just 2 good reasons for not re-loading... ;)

With your logic: One could say that if you do not do all of the work on your car; you should not drive????? (What about race car dirvers?)

Lateck,
evidently according to Tap... in the back of your hippie van shaggin' wagon is a perfectly safe place to crank out reloads. :O
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/656839-post32.html

anyway - Lateck hit the nail on the head for me. no space, no time.
maybe someday I'll have a office/shop of my own. but right now there is zero room for that in my 1 bedroom cottage that I share with a wife and dog. and a Job that averages 55 hours a week.
 

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Hey, if I (a lawyer) start making my own ammo, the ammo companies may start providing legal services. Then where would I be? :ph34r:
 

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Wow. I reload, have for years, got started early by my dad and grandfather. However, it is definately not for everyone and definately takes committing time, money and space to it. I have a lot of s*** that I have aquired over the years, much of it at no cost to me, but for a new upstart getting set up is going to take some time to recoup that initial investment in ammo savings. Definately far more people I know don't reload than do-yet I believe they should still have weapons:)
 

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Some rounds are cheap to buy,some aren't, I reload .223 for about .14 a shot, 9m for about the same .06 for a little more, .45acp for about .12 or less if I cast my own bullets. As long as I have componants I will have ammo, while the rest of you search out the stores I can load ammo that you can't buy. I have loaded my own for over 40 years.
 

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I've owned reloading equipment for quite a while, but didn't really get into reloading until a couple years ago. Now I enjoy doing it as much as shooting. Plus I don't shoot as much when it snowing so it's something to do.

I can understand why you wouldn't reload. If your time is worth more than difference then it's worth it.

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Been there, done that Tap....probably before you were born. No desire to do it now.
 

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Pretty lame thread. There are a million reasons not to reload, such as:

1. No safe place to do it; or at least no convenient place.

2. Don't really care about the savings; value the time more than the differential in ammunition cost. Shooting is an avocation for me, not a vocation.

3. Fire a lot of different calibers so reloading not always practical.

4. Kids in the house. Kids in the house.

5. Wife doesn't want the reloading gear and materials around.

6. Shoot 22 a lot. Who the heck cares about the cost of 22 ammo?

7. Own stock in an ammo company. You trying to screw up my 401(k)?

8. Too busy fixing my own plumbing, fixing my own car, replacing the roof on my house, giving myself an appendectomy, and doing the other things which, if I paid experts to do them, the OP would say that I did not deserve to have them done. :lol:
 

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I started reloading in 1978 after I bought my first Colt 1911. Reloading hasn't saved me a dollar in shooting costs, however I do shoot alot more. My reloading presses consume a large part of my garage. I have many more options for my ammunition,than I can find on the shelf at most gun shops.

There are many reasons for one to not reload - time, space.
 

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Why don't I reload? I can smell an addiction a mile away.

"and they found him, dead, with his hand on his reloading press.......hadn't eaten...."
 

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Hey~~ I handload and have for many years. It does give one a self-satisfaction in the use of a firearm and overall you can save about 50 to 60 % over factory ammo, BUT I only handload for my sporting firearms. For my self-defense weapons I will ONLY use factory ammo because, if you ever have to shoot someone in self-defense, you better use factory ammo or some Fancy A** Lawyer will try to crucify you for using some kind of "Over Powered", "Extra Lethal", "Evil Intent", ammo just so he can turn your "self-defense" claim into a murderous intent. Believe me, it can and has happened!!!! :eek:
 

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I used to reload all of my handgun ammo - 9mm, 45acp, 40s&w, 38 special and 357 magnum.

But a few years ago I moved, and have never set my press up again. Nor do I shoot as much as I used to. there used to be weekends when my buddies and I would load 1,000 rounds of 9mm in one hour and then go to the range for 3 or 4 hours
 

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If I start cooking my own gasoline, will you let me keep driving? Kinda need that to get to my 60+ hour a week JOB! Not too mention spending time with the wife, much softer than an ammo press, oh and let's not forget about my daughter, and all of her school activities.

I need a vacation....
 

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Because I'm too damn busy trying to get this Kenyan Usurper so-called "President", and all of his ilk, their walking papers, come this November. All this talk about, "Why ain't you reloading?", won't mean a hill of beans, if that self-proclaimed king doesn't get his hat handed to him!
 
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