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Sure man, sure.

This kind of one issue politics leads folks down a rabbit hole that I simply do not wish to explore.

Take it easy, folks.
They won't.
 

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I am new here; so please excuse me if I speak out of turn. But I have read a bit through this thread and just wanted to note a couple things.

Seems some folks here are generalizing and demonizing. Both Democrat and Republican politicians have wedge issues they use to divide us. Both must rile up their bases and play to special interests to drum up the capital needed to finance their political survival. Ultimately, I don't think we come to understanding by allowing political elites on either side of the ideological spectrum to drive us apart.

Just send reasoned letters to folks on either side when you disagree. Explain to them your point of view. Find policy items you agree with to establish common ground. When they see that elements of the electorate like some of what they say but not all of it, they may move to the center on some things. Why? Because they want your vote. The more folks that do that rather than flocking to whoever supports their single issue, the more people can get politicians to get to the sensible center.

Just my two cents.
maybe in a perfect world where politicians werent corrupt as the day is long, I will agree that dems and repubs have the same agenda, filling their pockets with our $$$$$....so party side means nothing much..its now leftist or conservative as the 2 sides....
and your wrong on what the agenda is..the left wants to destroy and own the country with 100% control..the conservatives want a free country and peace.....at this point in time..there is very little common ground....and isnt going to change by letter writing....
the election was stolen..so your vote wont have to count anymore, they will just cheat whoever they want into office..
so untill the last election is straightened out ..there wont be another honest election in this country..
the next test will be 2022..if the demtards sweep the polls..then game over.......
 

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The closest we came in this country to the sort of widespread political turmoil seen prior to the Civil War was the late 60s and early 70s. We don't have Nixon and the Weather Underground anymore. Most people agree on most things. We have similar lifestyles. We listen to similar music. We are more connected than ever before. The only reason we disagree is because a few politicians in Washington drum up reasons to divide us to get votes.
Although I doubt we're headed for a civil war.........

Has there ever been a time when America was so starkly divided? Have Americans ever attacked the Congress, broken down doors and rampaged through the halls?

We are 50-50 and both sides are convinced the other side is evil........and would love to see the other side eliminated..........somehow.

Yes, I know there are a few people here puffing out their chests and declaring that they are ready for war........that's just them and they're just posturing for approval from their buddies.

Yet they ARE a clue as to just how extreme and irrational some people are getting. Their need to fill their posts with hate and bigotry and namecalling tells us a lot.

I doubt that there will be civil war.........but I guarantee more violence from dysfunctional people who snap.

And there are dysfunctional people on BOTH sides.
 

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Back to the OP and getting back on topic, I just read over H-5556, which can be found here: Rhode Island H5556 | 2021 | Regular Session

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
Looks to me like any factory stock non-tactical model Mini is okay, and I wouldn't lose sleep over the factory 10 banger mags. Yes, they have detachable floor plates but they're not something that can be "readily extended" like a Glock 27's mag can be, at least not to my knowledge and in my non-lawyer's opinion. Remember, this ain't legal advice.

Now, a tactical mini with the threaded barrel and flash hider would - in factory stock configuration - get hit, pretty clearly. As to enforcement, who knows if the RI gestapo would accept a replacement non-flash hider muzzle device (like a muzzle brake) that had been permanently or semi-permanently attached. Would red loctite be good enough? How about a single dot of weld metal? Or would it need to be blind pinned? Who knows? And as for the "make the mag non-detachable", no way of knowing what they would accept as a mod. Jack booted thugs have this way of making arbitrary rules and changing them without warning, so speculating on what they'll do is wasting time in my opinion. But as written, this non-lawyer thinks a standard mini (no factory threaded bbl, no flash hider, no pistol grip or folding stock) would not be a problem. I'd personally stay with a wood stock, a. because I like wood stocks better and b. because the sheeple don't seem as horrified by the appearance of a wood stocked "deer rifle". Scaring the sheeple is a good way to get ratted to the jack-boots. Anyway, a nice walnut stock and matching walnut handguard is a real looker in my opinion. Put on a decent set of sling swivels like the Grov-tec one piece mil spec 1-1/4" jobs and a good GI cotton sling and the Mini really shines, even with small cap mags.

Whether or not anyone had larger mags or an easily swapped out folding stock is his or her business and I wouldn't go posting about it online one way or the other if I lived in a state run by the jack-booted commie thugs, like RI. Whether someone complied or not is their business and no one else's. And I'd be far more concerned about pistols like the Glock 27 - 10 shots of .40 but with a mag that can be extended to hold more by the addition of a +2 floorplate, or collectible pistols that were never made with small cap mags. Maybe aftermarket Glock small cap Glock mags will be acceptable to the jack boots, maybe not. Who knows? Me, I'm a revolver guy so its a moot point. If I only had 2 guns to my name, I can think of worse batteries than a factory stock 580 series stainless Mini kitted out the way I described above, teamed up with a 4.2" GP100 in stainless, and I certainly wouldn't worry about the bill I just read banning those right now, but that's just me. Suit yourself.

So good luck to the suffering gun-owners of hell-holes like RI. Whether or not you own the "evil guns" that are hit you need to politely protest to your congresscritters to at least try to keep it from passing. Why? Because if the bastards pass their AWB, they'll be back for more later. Ain't no guns safe from the leftards, since it ain't about guns or even about control. Its about punishing their political enemies, and private gun ownership is something that the leftards use as a kind of political litmus test. Kowtowing to 'em and pointing out all the ways you're going along with what they rammed through their state gov't won't help either, since they don't care about anything except a tribal identity. If you're in the "gun owners tribe" you're in an enemy tribe as far as they're concerned, and that's all there is to that.

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Although I doubt we're headed for a civil war.........

Has there ever been a time when America was so starkly divided? Have Americans ever attacked the Congress, broken down doors and rampaged through the halls?

We are 50-50 and both sides are convinced the other side is evil........and would love to see the other side eliminated..........somehow.

Yes, I know there are a few people here puffing out their chests and declaring that they are ready for war........that's just them and they're just posturing for approval from their buddies.

Yet they ARE a clue as to just how extreme and irrational some people are getting. Their need to fill their posts with hate and bigotry and namecalling tells us a lot.

I doubt that there will be civil war.........but I guarantee more violence from dysfunctional people who snap.

And there are dysfunctional people on BOTH sides.
so 1 side wants to destroy the country by letting every illegal in and support them, allows riots and looting in their cities, frees criminals but jails business owners trying to keep their businesses afloat...wants to turn small children into transgenders, and a long list of other society killing policies..and you cant see the difference between the sides.......
 

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Back to the OP and getting back on topic, I just read over H-5556, which can be found here: Rhode Island H5556 | 2021 | Regular Session

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
Looks to me like any factory stock mini is okay, and I wouldn't lose sleep over the factory 10 banger mags. Yes, they have detachable floor plates but they're not something that can be "readily extended" like a Glock 27's mag can be, at least not to my knowledge and in my non-lawyer's opinion. Remember, this ain't legal advice.

Now, a tactical mini with the threaded barrel and flash hider would - in factory stock configuration - get hit, pretty clearly. As to enforcement, who knows if the RI gestapo would accept a replacement non-flash hider muzzle device (like a muzzle brake) that had been permanently or semi-permanently attached. Would red loctite be good enough? How about a single dot of weld metal? Or would it need to be blind pinned? Who knows? And as for the "make the mag non-detachable", no way of knowing what they would accept as a mod. Jack booted thugs have this way of making arbitrary rules and changing them without warning, so speculating on what they'll do is wasting time in my opinion. But as written, this non-lawyer thinks a standard mini (no factory threaded bbl, no flash hider, no pistol grip or folding stock) would not be a problem. I'd personally stay with a wood stock, a. because I like wood stocks better and b. because the sheeple don't seem as horrified by the appearance of a wood stocked "deer rifle". Scaring the sheeple is a good way to get ratted to the jack-boots. Anyway, a nice walnut stock and matching walnut handguard is a real looker in my opinion. Put on a decent set of sling swivels like the Grov-tec one piece mil spec 1-1/4" jobs and a good GI cotton sling and the Mini really shines, even with small cap mags.

Whether or not anyone had larger mags or an easily swapped out folding stock is his or her business and I wouldn't go posting about it online one way or the other if I lived in a state run by the jack-booted commie thugs, like RI. Whether someone complied or not is their business and no one else's. And I'd be far more concerned about pistols like the Glock 27 - 10 shots of .40 but with a mag that can be extended to hold more by the addition of a +2 floorplate, or collectible pistols that were never made with small cap mags. Maybe aftermarket Glock small cap Glock mags will be acceptable to the jack boots, maybe not. Who knows? Me, I'm a revolver guy so its a moot point. If I only had 2 guns to my name, I can think of worse batteries than a factory stock 580 series stainless Mini kitted out the way I described above, teamed up with a 4.2" GP100 in stainless, and I certainly wouldn't worry about the bill I just read banning those right now, but that's just me. Suit yourself.

So good luck to the suffering gun-owners of hell-holes like RI. Whether or not you own the "evil guns" that are hit you need to politely protest to your congresscritters to at least try to keep it from passing. Why? Because if the bastards pass their AWB, they'll be back for more later. Ain't no guns safe from the leftards, since it ain't about guns or even about control. Its about punishing their political enemies, and private gun ownership is something that the leftards use as a kind of political litmus test. Kowtowing to 'em and pointing out all the ways you're going along with what they rammed through their state gov't won't help either, since they don't care about anything except a tribal identity. If you're in the "gun owners tribe" you're in an enemy tribe as far as they're concerned, and that's all there is to that.

Grumpy
you hit the nail on the head..this is NOT about gun control..its about PEOPLE control....just like the climate control crap..its all about limiting what you can do while the leftists( mostly tech and green energy garbage) to make trillions by making you comply by buying all the bs anti pollution stuff on everything...
all you have to do to see the end result are all the countries that banned firearms from the citizens....and turned stable countries into socialist dung heaps in deep financial trouble...
have you also noticed how in todays time you have very little choice on insurance companies, financial institutions, big tech companies controlling social media and main stream.....how many small businesses will never open again and all you have left are big box stores..they will control pricing and supply...
and in another thread I posted that many billionaires are buying up farm land and water rights all over..control the sources and you control the whole supply line...the handwriting is on the wall but many arent reading it...
 

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so 1 side wants to destroy the country by letting every illegal in and support them, allows riots and looting in their cities, frees criminals but jails business owners trying to keep their businesses afloat...wants to turn small children into transgenders, and a long list of other society killing policies..and you cant see the difference between the sides.......
I always feel a bit of irony when people post about whether or not a "civil war" is in our future. There has been a civil war on against the American Republic for decades, but only one side has been fighting, the anti-American left. With the stolen elections in Nov and Jan, the leftards reckon they've won.
you hit the nail on the head..this is NOT about gun control..its about PEOPLE control....just like the climate control crap..its all about limiting what you can do while the leftists( mostly tech and green energy garbage) to make trillions by making you comply by buying all the bs anti pollution stuff on everything...
all you have to do to see the end result are all the countries that banned firearms from the citizens....and turned stable countries into socialist dung heaps in deep financial trouble...
have you also noticed how in todays time you have very little choice on insurance companies, financial institutions, big tech companies controlling social media and main stream.....how many small businesses will never open again and all you have left are big box stores..they will control pricing and supply...
and in another thread I posted that many billionaires are buying up farm land and water rights all over..control the sources and you control the whole supply line...the handwriting is on the wall but many arent reading it...
To that list of things the oligarchs are buying up I would add precious metals, at least if the rumors I'm hearing are right (who knows?). Makes sense to me in that the way the leftards are dumping funny-money into the system (1.9 trillion was just a start) the USD will not hold its value in my opinion (just my opinion). Don't forget that bastard Roosevelt stole the gold back in '33 (then stole silver bullion a year later to keep the peasants from "hoarding" it), wouldn't put it past 'em to do the same thing in the future. This is not financial advice and I ain't a financial expert, but my gut tells me that when the dollar is perceived as having lost its value they'll "reset" us into a new currency that will let the SOB's track every purchase in real time and will make it difficult to barter. They'll also be able to tax us directly (what a convenience!) by extracting money directly from our "fed-coin" accounts or whatever they call their digital currency. Thing is that under MMT, taxes ain't really there to pay for anything, they're just there to keep the peasants in their place.

EDIT: These financial opinions of mine are just opinions and in no way should be taken as investment advice. Consult a real financial advisor, not some old fart on a forum. For all I know the "powers that be" will outlaw ownership of precious metals - again.

Grumpy
PS I originally deleted this post because on reflection I thought it strayed too far from the topic - modding the Mini to make it "politically acceptable" to the tyrants that would disarm the free people of RI. However, since its getting quoted and liked I will put it back with an apology to the OP for an early morning (i.e. half awake) thread-jack. To the OP, I will reiterate that if you have a factory stock (non-tactical, non-GB14) Mini 14 with small cap mags, I honestly think you're safe - for now.
 

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I always feel a bit of irony when people post about whether or not a "civil war" is in our future. There has been a civil war on against the American Republic for decades, but only one side has been fighting, the anti-American left. With the stolen elections in Nov and Jan, the leftards reckon they've won.

To that list of things the oligarchs are buying up I would add precious metals, at least if the rumors I'm hearing are right (who knows?). Makes sense to me in that the way the leftards are dumping funny-money into the system (1.9 trillion was just a start) the USD will not hold its value in my opinion (just my opinion). Don't forget that bastard Roosevelt stole the gold back in '33 (then stole silver bullion a year later to keep the peasants from "hoarding" it), wouldn't put it past 'em to do the same thing in the future. This is not financial advice and I ain't a financial expert, but my gut tells me that when the dollar is perceived as having lost its value they'll "reset" us into a new currency that will let the SOB's track every purchase in real time and will make it difficult to barter. They'll also be able to tax us directly (what a convenience!) by extracting money directly from our "fed-coin" accounts or whatever they call their digital currency. Thing is that under MMT, taxes ain't really there to pay for anything, they're just there to keep the peasants in their place.

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you are correct on all points.....can you say " BITCOIN"..or any of the other fake monetary systems they are trying to lure people to invest in, they want to take any tangable property away, so you have nothing but what they say you have.....invest all your $$ into cyberspace and then it disappears..who do you goto to try and get it back?? the leftist techies..I think not...
everything is done slowly, or at least in the past..it seems fast forward now, like if they dont get it all done and lock the conservatives down, they will lose control as more people see the real truth of whats happening...
we have been in a cold civil war for decades with all the controls being put on the people..soon it will turn hot if changes back in the other direction dont occur...
 

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this guy makes a bunch of videos, but this one shows the feelings on many, that something is not right...something much bigger is coming down the road, and its a short road....
 

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so 1 side wants to destroy the country by letting every illegal in and support them, allows riots and looting in their cities, frees criminals but jails business owners trying to keep their businesses afloat...wants to turn small children into transgenders, and a long list of other society killing policies..and you cant see the difference between the sides.......
Easy to see the difference between the sides when one side is wearing tinfoil hats and constantly spewing hate and bigotry.
 

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well here is why NYC will burn..take all protections away from the police....more leftist policies..no tin foil hat here, even the most stupid dumb fuk will see what this will do, just look at all the demtard cities that defunded the police and wonder why crime is through the roof, ...so I guess logos is for this new society..
 

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At this point, RI is, at least, not the WORST of NE States, and better than some. We have worked very hard over the decades to make it so. I understand that RI is nowhere near as "Free" as one might like, but things here in NE are different from other States, and we, here, are proud of our work in the past.

I get a chuckle from Internet Commandos who advise me make some moves which could put my family in jeopardy.

Talk is cheap; almost as cheap as Internet advice. No offense intended, of course.

I (and many others) have been making a PUBLIC stand here in RI for decades. Been on TV. Been on Radio. Sent Letters-to-the-Editor for years. Spoken at public meetings. If there's a "list" here in RI, I reckon I'm on it.

We here in RI are still fighting hard, and trying to swim upstream. I sincerely hope this sort of situation does not come to your State!

What I find curious is that planning-ahead on my part for possible defeat in regards to proposed Draconian RI Laws somehow places me in the "Defeatist" camp. I would rather use my wits to AVOID possible State Laws, having tried to Prevent such Laws being enacted in the first place, over many decades. Folks on this site asking about modding their Minis to comply with their existing State/Fed laws get kind, helpful advice, as well they should.

It might be so that my (reversible) mods allow me to NOT register my firearms, under proposed RI State Laws, and to continue to use the Modded firearms. Time will tell.

Why is it objectionable for me to mention ways to AVOID upcoming Laws? We are all about helping folks in States with bad laws, as we should be. Why so much Hate for planning ahead, if our efforts against proposed Laws here in RI fail?

My planning ahead, as a contingency gets me condemned. Some of you folks don't know me. I usually have multiple Plans for most anything-- as you ought to do. Getting shot on my doorstep, in resistance to firearms confiscation and endangering my family, is not one of them. There are far better ways to deal with things, as mentioned.

I am a kind, gentle person who means no harm to anyone. I like to shoot paper targets, for sport. Just so everyone knows.
 

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Bob I don't think it's hate it's just a real sore subject especially in the midwest,
and midwest does not include the chicago part of the ILL state.
You do what you have to do to get by as will everyone else.
If you mention gun control here the hair on peoples neck stands up.
We do not have the unconstitutional mandates that are in place on the
coasts. People are real touchy now and this permanent pandemic
is not helping. So cut people some slack I really do not believe it's
you that what you perceive as hate is aimed at. There are enough
things that are going on that will turn stress into something that can
be perceived as hate.
Have a nice day..
 
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Bob I don't think it's hate it's just a real sore subject especially in the midwest,
and midwest does not include the chicago part of the ILL state.
You do what you have to do to get by as will everyone else.
If you mention gun control here the hair on peoples neck stands up.
We do not have the unconstitutional mandates that are in place on the
coasts. People are real touchy now and this permanent pandemic
is not helping. So cut people some slack I really do not believe it's
you that what you perceive as hate is aimed at. There are enough
things that are going on that will turn stress into something that can
be perceived as hate.
Have a nice day..
Thank you for understanding, and wise comment. Don't disagree with anything you've said, but have had a bellyfull of critical posters here. You say I should cut other posters some slack, but maybe they should they should do the same, to be fair.

We here in RI are staring down the Cannon's muzzle. You folks in other States, TAKE CARE! The Antis have all of you in their sights, make NO mistake!
 

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Your right it has to work both ways.
As long as you have been here you
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You say I should cut other posters some slack, but maybe they should they should do the same, to be fair.

We here in RI are staring down the Cannon's muzzle. You folks in other States, TAKE CARE! The Antis have all of you in their sights, make NO mistake!
It's happening everywhere. Look at Colorado. It was a major hunting and fishing state populated by free outdoorsmen and women and free of gun control.

What changed? It's a numbers game. Cities grew and grew and with that growth came Liberal voting power that has been scoring victories in gun control. It's urban versus rural and urban is winning.

Smart people will prepare.

It's not just modifying your Ranch Rifle. It's looking beyond such obvious things. It's owning revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles and even bolt action shotguns.

Maybe we'll never go that far down the gun control road.........but look ahead and take action.

That's all RiBob is saying and he's right. A word to the wise should be sufficient.
 

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Someone loses an eye and paintball guns will be banned if they have
there way.
Have you ever checked out Hatsan?
Check out there big bore air rifles.
 
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