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Welcome to the forum goldsbu. Just a personal pref. thing. I chose the stainless for my mini-14, as it is more rugged in weather, don't have to worry about rust, or scratching the blueing. It isn't a bright stainless, but a matte stainless.
As far as mags go if I had a mini-30 I'd can get some 10 round Pro Mags, or John Mansen. They seem to be very reliable, and relatively cheep. You can jungle clip em if you want to warm up the barrel some.
As far as mags go if I had a mini-30 I'd can get some 10 round Pro Mags, or John Mansen. They seem to be very reliable, and relatively cheep. You can jungle clip em if you want to warm up the barrel some.
I am seriously considering the stainless and I will not be getting any HIGH cap mags. Will probably only get the 10 rounders as suggested. I find that 20-30 round mags are cumbersome and the way I see it if you can't hit with one or two thirty probably won't make you a better shooter anyway. I intend on also getting the muzzle brake and gas port bushing kit and working my way up from there. Thanks.
Mike G
Mike G
NO!!! *************!!!! Don't get a Mini-30-you will be sorry!!! And no-the Thermold mags DON'T work!!!! They suck too!!! They fit extremely tight, if you can get them in at all-and the Mini-30 Firing Pin is so fragile, it will break on china!!!! Just get a VEPR or a SAM-7 with a scope mount!!! They are cheaper and more accurate anyway!!!
I LOVE my VEPR!! If you have not held one in your hands,you have no idea! It is NOT "just another AK"! Even my forged receiver-Polytech,or forged receiver-SLR 95 does'nt come close to the weight and sturdy feel of the VEPR. It really is An AK Apart from the crowd!
havent owned a mini 30 yet, but if they are even half as good as the 3 mini-14's ive owned, im sure i wouldnt be dissapointed. i am partial to good old american engineering, (garand type actions) over the stuff that comes out of the 3rd world countries....
Oh, gutpile-don't be taken in!!! The Mini-30 SUCKS!!!! You'll have your rifle at Ruger Repair more than you will have it with you!!! It is a POS!!! You will go through more firing pins than you can believe!!! And good luck finding mags that work!!!! Please-just get an AK!!!!! I think the firing pin is made of fine China!!! And at 100 yards, good luck hitting a man-sized target!!!
AzSherman post specifics about the problems you have seen with the Mini Thirty if you would please. Also why do you have such a thing about Mini's, if you don't like them get rid of them and be done with it. The reason I am looking into a Mini thirty is because I want to use it to go hunting. In Kansas the .223 is not legal for some hunting applications where as the 7.62X39 is. I have had farmers and land owners ask what rifle I was going to use and when I told them a MAK 90 they look at me like I am some sort of terrorist. The Mini Thirty if i get it will be a second gun to back up one of my hi power bolt rifles because there are trees in this state and sometimes a carbine with a 4X scope is more then enough to get the job done.
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Mike G
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Mike G
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I have a stainless ranch rifle and a stainless 30. I could not be happier with either of them. They are both standard. No mods whatsoever. I only use the 5rd factory, or 10rd mason mags in them. I have not had any trouble with either rifle, and as far as accuracy, they both shoot as well as I do. I have never come home from a hunt empty handed yet. I do swap a 3-9x weaver marksman scope that has served wonderfully for myself and several before me (I got it from my brother, and he got it used at a gun show a while back!). I have shot cheap import ammo, good domestic rounds, and assorted handloads. I am truly satisfied with them both.
OK Goldsbu-first of all, I hunt with VEPR's. And I don't give a **** what anybody thinks-It's just another self-loading rifle with a 5 round Bulgarian "Waffle" Mag. Perfectly Legal. In fact, I bet I have got more than one person to go out and buy a VEPR after they have seen mine in action!! The Russians have been hunting with specially made AK's (short barrels and folding stocks) in 7.62 X 39mm for decades. But let's get back to the Mini-30:
Price-Expect to pay over $700 for a new one-a VEPR is $200 less
Accuracy-No group holding ability whatsoever, why do you think there are guys making small fortunes "accurizing" Mini-14's and Mini-30's??
Firing Pin-Expect to buy a few-oh, and don't plan on installing them yourself, either. You will have to ship them to Ruger yourself, or go through an FFL to do it. And YOU will have to pay the return S&H, don't forget!!!
Hammer Spring-Ruger has intentionally made the Hammer Spring so that it does not have enough force to ignite Soviet Bloc ammo-so plan on spending the $10-$13 for every box of 20 US-Made rounds. (Foreign stuff sells for about $2 per box of 20)
Scope-First of all, the Ruger rings suck, your scope will come loose, and you can only use certain kinds of scopes anyway. To mount a red-dot or anything else, you will have to spend about $80 for a B-Square side-mounting base, or something similar.
Magazines-I know you said you will not use hi-cap mags, but what if you needed your rifle for a defensive situation?? I would want more than 5 rounds. Good luck finding any hi-cap mags that work!!
Other than that, the Mini-30 is a fine weapon!!! In fact, mine was so good, that I ended up selling it for about a $300 loss, as it was costing me more than my car to keep working. I don't hate Mini's-only the Mini-30. And I hate Ruger for the things they have done, like making a rifle that by design, will not shoot the ammo I want to use, and for making their firing pins out of blown glass.
I'm just trying to save you the heartache. But do what you want-maybe you'll get lucky!!
Price-Expect to pay over $700 for a new one-a VEPR is $200 less
Accuracy-No group holding ability whatsoever, why do you think there are guys making small fortunes "accurizing" Mini-14's and Mini-30's??
Firing Pin-Expect to buy a few-oh, and don't plan on installing them yourself, either. You will have to ship them to Ruger yourself, or go through an FFL to do it. And YOU will have to pay the return S&H, don't forget!!!
Hammer Spring-Ruger has intentionally made the Hammer Spring so that it does not have enough force to ignite Soviet Bloc ammo-so plan on spending the $10-$13 for every box of 20 US-Made rounds. (Foreign stuff sells for about $2 per box of 20)
Scope-First of all, the Ruger rings suck, your scope will come loose, and you can only use certain kinds of scopes anyway. To mount a red-dot or anything else, you will have to spend about $80 for a B-Square side-mounting base, or something similar.
Magazines-I know you said you will not use hi-cap mags, but what if you needed your rifle for a defensive situation?? I would want more than 5 rounds. Good luck finding any hi-cap mags that work!!
Other than that, the Mini-30 is a fine weapon!!! In fact, mine was so good, that I ended up selling it for about a $300 loss, as it was costing me more than my car to keep working. I don't hate Mini's-only the Mini-30. And I hate Ruger for the things they have done, like making a rifle that by design, will not shoot the ammo I want to use, and for making their firing pins out of blown glass.
I'm just trying to save you the heartache. But do what you want-maybe you'll get lucky!!
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Wow! I am amazed! I had no idea so many things could happen to one rifle. I don't even know where to start. Scope coming loose? Never had any trouble with mine. Of course, I have only put about 1200 rds through mine so far. Firing pin breaking? I have heard of it on this forum, but that is it. I have never had it happen, or actually met someone that had. Spring too weak? Almost all the the ammo I have shot has been soviet surplus. I dunno. Either you got a lemon or I got lucky. In any case, I am glad you found a rifle you like.
However, I would not trade my 30 for you VEPR. You should not feel bad about that, because you would not like that trade either.
All in all, I guess it just comes down to how a particular firearm fits for people. I would feel terrible if everyone at the range had the same rifle. That would be BORING!
However, I would not trade my 30 for you VEPR. You should not feel bad about that, because you would not like that trade either.
All in all, I guess it just comes down to how a particular firearm fits for people. I would feel terrible if everyone at the range had the same rifle. That would be BORING!
Thanks for suggesting the Vepr. I am looking into it but there are no stocking dealers in this area but I do know a couple of people with ffl's so am going to check with them. The decision has not been made yet but the Vepr looks promising. I actually like the look of the Vepr Super 308 but I am afraid that the spousal unit will balk at the price.
I can probably get you a Super VEPR for a little more than the retail price of a Stainless Mini-30!!!!! Now you're talking a whole new world!!! That would be the route to go!!! And it would actually work!! And nobody would call you a Communist when you went hunting!! If you can find somebody to do your transfer for a reasonable price, I am an FFL in NV.
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hm.... .308 huh? one of the local gun shops here has a Springfield M1A and a Springfield FAL in at the moment. (I had not known of a Springfield branded FAL until I saw this one on the rack friday)
just to stir the pot a little more, if it is a carbine you are looking for, and 7.62x39 is not essential, there is always the Deerfield!
just to stir the pot a little more, if it is a carbine you are looking for, and 7.62x39 is not essential, there is always the Deerfield!
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VEPR 200 dollars less? HAHAHA! Sure, the suggested price is cheaper, but all the gun stores around here know which one has higher demand, so the VEPR is much more expensive than the Mini-30.
P.S. the Mini-30 has a 2 inch longer barrel than most AK's, so I'm sure it would outshoot most of them. This is just an opinion, unlike some people around these forums, I don't hold my opinion to be fact. Thanks.
P.S. the Mini-30 has a 2 inch longer barrel than most AK's, so I'm sure it would outshoot most of them. This is just an opinion, unlike some people around these forums, I don't hold my opinion to be fact. Thanks.
goldsbu for the record:
The mini-30 is as reliable as the mini-14, its basicly the same. To my knowledge we have NOT had a posting of a single broken firing pin on the mini-30. If you do a search you will verify this.
The mini-30 shoots about the same out of the box as a mini-14, and can be cheaply tuned for much better accuracy, the same as the mini-14. Again do a search. The mini-30 shoots cheaper than a mini-14. Some ammo is less than 2 bucks a box. It also makes a fair deer gun if you are into hunting larger game.
I see new mini-30s go for $500 to $529. IF you decide on something else thats fine, but I read some things in this thread that the facts in this forum's archives do not support. Just for the record.
The mini-30 is as reliable as the mini-14, its basicly the same. To my knowledge we have NOT had a posting of a single broken firing pin on the mini-30. If you do a search you will verify this.
The mini-30 shoots about the same out of the box as a mini-14, and can be cheaply tuned for much better accuracy, the same as the mini-14. Again do a search. The mini-30 shoots cheaper than a mini-14. Some ammo is less than 2 bucks a box. It also makes a fair deer gun if you are into hunting larger game.
I see new mini-30s go for $500 to $529. IF you decide on something else thats fine, but I read some things in this thread that the facts in this forum's archives do not support. Just for the record.
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