Hi all,
I posted this on another site, but I would really like to get as many opinions as I can. I know this may seem lame to some, but bear with me as I am kind of new to pistols.
First, I just bought a Springfield Armory 1911 "loaded" model pistol. It had all of the bells and whistles except an adjustable sight. I was fairly happy with my purchase until I got home. I was logging the serial number down in my log book as I do with all of my guns and there it was. In big huge letters it was stamped, "MADE IN BRAZIL". I nearly fainted. I thought Springfield Armory was a well respected American gun maker from Illinois, but here in my hand was something different. After staring at the wall for a minute or two, I supposed I came back to a conscious state and looked again at the frame. As my eyes drifted toward where I had thought I had seen the name of a foreign country stamped on my new pistol, I chuckled to my self for thinking such a thing. But it happened again, only this time, it seemed more prominantly marked. Brazil. I though for a minute I had brought home the wrong pistol so I checked the slide and the name of the manufacturer. Sure enough, it said Springfield Armory. Without having to look again at the frame, (the letters seemed to be getting bigger, I kid you not) MADE IN BRAZIL was stamped and was getting bigger. Somehow, I bought an American pistol that was made in Brazil! Surely there had to be a mistake I thought. I checked their web site and looked at each and every pistol they show and sure enough, none say anything about Brazil. I emailed the company and received a quick (albeit curt) response that simply said that "all of our frames and slides are forged in Brazil and sent here for fitting and assembly. If a pistol is more than 50% made in Brazil, it is stamped as such". Ok I'm sorry about the long winded rant( I do feel a little better though), but once again, I thought I was buying an American made pistol. So here (finally) is the first question. Do I have a right to be ticked off?
The second and third questions have to do with Colt pistols. Since I feel was burned by, taken advantage of and a victim of false advertising by Springfield Armory, I think I am going to cut my losses on the pistol and buy a gold cup. So my second question is, What is the difference in accuracy potential between a Series 70 and a Series 80 pistol? Question number 3 is, What is a Gold Cup "Trophy" model and is it better than the other Gold Cup models?
Thanks in advance.
Doug Gordon
I posted this on another site, but I would really like to get as many opinions as I can. I know this may seem lame to some, but bear with me as I am kind of new to pistols.
First, I just bought a Springfield Armory 1911 "loaded" model pistol. It had all of the bells and whistles except an adjustable sight. I was fairly happy with my purchase until I got home. I was logging the serial number down in my log book as I do with all of my guns and there it was. In big huge letters it was stamped, "MADE IN BRAZIL". I nearly fainted. I thought Springfield Armory was a well respected American gun maker from Illinois, but here in my hand was something different. After staring at the wall for a minute or two, I supposed I came back to a conscious state and looked again at the frame. As my eyes drifted toward where I had thought I had seen the name of a foreign country stamped on my new pistol, I chuckled to my self for thinking such a thing. But it happened again, only this time, it seemed more prominantly marked. Brazil. I though for a minute I had brought home the wrong pistol so I checked the slide and the name of the manufacturer. Sure enough, it said Springfield Armory. Without having to look again at the frame, (the letters seemed to be getting bigger, I kid you not) MADE IN BRAZIL was stamped and was getting bigger. Somehow, I bought an American pistol that was made in Brazil! Surely there had to be a mistake I thought. I checked their web site and looked at each and every pistol they show and sure enough, none say anything about Brazil. I emailed the company and received a quick (albeit curt) response that simply said that "all of our frames and slides are forged in Brazil and sent here for fitting and assembly. If a pistol is more than 50% made in Brazil, it is stamped as such". Ok I'm sorry about the long winded rant( I do feel a little better though), but once again, I thought I was buying an American made pistol. So here (finally) is the first question. Do I have a right to be ticked off?
The second and third questions have to do with Colt pistols. Since I feel was burned by, taken advantage of and a victim of false advertising by Springfield Armory, I think I am going to cut my losses on the pistol and buy a gold cup. So my second question is, What is the difference in accuracy potential between a Series 70 and a Series 80 pistol? Question number 3 is, What is a Gold Cup "Trophy" model and is it better than the other Gold Cup models?
Thanks in advance.
Doug Gordon
I know what ya mean about being made in USA, looking close at various parts on my Mercury sable I see made in Mexico.... not what you'd expect on something you believe to be all American. Shoot your 1911 and enjoy it, trust me you won't be sorry. Kimber, Colt, S&W, Wilson, Ed Brown, Les Baer are some examples of USA made 1911's. I own some of these as well....
