Anybody out ther have any experiance with the M14 (M1A1) "style" left side, receiver scope mount, for their Mini-14 (or 30) that slides into the bolt cover plate recess, and is held on by one large knurled knob ??? Any problems re-zeoring ??? Is it strong enough ??? Am thinking of using one on a Mini but don't think it is strong enough with the small "footprint" of the mounting base...AB
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Sort of likewise thinking, didnt like the idea of balancing a scope off one nut on the side of the rifle.
I was worried about the movement in my mount with a weighty scope on board, so I reused the weaver 302 mount and added a bit of aluminum to the front, drilled and tapped it to the reciever.
Never going to move again!!
I was worried about the movement in my mount with a weighty scope on board, so I reused the weaver 302 mount and added a bit of aluminum to the front, drilled and tapped it to the reciever.
Never going to move again!!
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doonzl,
Is there any way you could post some pix of your set-up. I had considered doing something similar but was a little queasy about drilling/tapping the rec. mounts. It's just that the Ruger bases are so limited, compared to the versatility of a weaver rail.
Thanks,
bargunhuntr
Is there any way you could post some pix of your set-up. I had considered doing something similar but was a little queasy about drilling/tapping the rec. mounts. It's just that the Ruger bases are so limited, compared to the versatility of a weaver rail.
Thanks,
bargunhuntr
bargunhuntr,
If you have a RANCH you might want to check out this mount
http://www.jackweigand.com/ranch.html
If you have a standard try http://www.scopemounts.com
but you loose your iron sights (attaches to rear sight)
or scout mount for either http://www.ultimak.com/M4.htm
If you have a RANCH you might want to check out this mount
http://www.jackweigand.com/ranch.html
If you have a standard try http://www.scopemounts.com
but you loose your iron sights (attaches to rear sight)
or scout mount for either http://www.ultimak.com/M4.htm
I made a slide, on one lever release, quick disconect mount, from parts I located for my SKS a couple years ago... It zeroes perfectly, and is adjustable forward or backward for different, scope eye reliefs... All attachments would be at or above the stock line on the left side of the receiver... The "rail" that is drilled and tapped to the receiver will have to be relieved to uncover the "bolt lock cover plate", but that's no biggie...
I will layout the parts, I have 2 extra sets to see how it looks... The whole reason would be to use iron sights in a pinch, QUICKLY instead of fidling with factory "RUGER" mounts and chance loosing parts... and possible re-zero problems when you did manage to find all the parts and screw it all back together aagain...
I will layout the parts, I have 2 extra sets to see how it looks... The whole reason would be to use iron sights in a pinch, QUICKLY instead of fidling with factory "RUGER" mounts and chance loosing parts... and possible re-zero problems when you did manage to find all the parts and screw it all back together aagain...
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I have a Mini 14 with a B Square scope mount. It is the type with the big round knob on the side. It also has 2 allen screws. One front and one rear to stabalize the unit. The photo that is attached shows the location of the two allen screws.
There is also a button with the scope mount that will allow you to still access the receiver lock button.
It is stable. This is the only thing I have added to my 1987 vintage Mini 14. I will soon start to get the accuracy up on gun. My eyesight is not good enough to use iron sights any more making a scope necessary.
The only problem that I see with it is the brass as it is ejected has a tendency to hit the mount. It does not bother me, it just makes a few knicks on the mount. They do NOT hit the scope. I am not a reloader. For the price I can buy the .223 shells for, I'll just buy them for now. I have not picked up my brass at the local range since it send out out so far but I suspect that the neck is bent on some of the brass.
There is also a button with the scope mount that will allow you to still access the receiver lock button.
It is stable. This is the only thing I have added to my 1987 vintage Mini 14. I will soon start to get the accuracy up on gun. My eyesight is not good enough to use iron sights any more making a scope necessary.
The only problem that I see with it is the brass as it is ejected has a tendency to hit the mount. It does not bother me, it just makes a few knicks on the mount. They do NOT hit the scope. I am not a reloader. For the price I can buy the .223 shells for, I'll just buy them for now. I have not picked up my brass at the local range since it send out out so far but I suspect that the neck is bent on some of the brass.
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I forgot to mention that the unit set up high enough that you can still use the factory sights by looking under the scope.
James
James
I have a B-Square mount as well, but am faced with the problem that it is a Weaver style rail, and the scope I want to mount on it is the Leupold CQ/T, which can only mount on an AR handle or a flattop Picatinny rail. Does B-Square or anyone else make a simlar mount that gives you a MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) rail? The only thing I've been able to find is a "scout" type rail which goes over the barrel and would not yeild the correct eye relieve for the scope.
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I just got a side mount for my Mini RR, even Though it came with it's own rings and mount set up. I wanted to be able to switch from a regular scope to a red dot. Besides B-Square, AIMPOINT also makes the side mount, and midwayusa.com has both with the Aimpoint on sale. I'll be taking it to the range sometime this week, and I'll let you know if anything comes loose.
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I use the B-square also for the open sight capabilities. I used locktite on both set screws. I painted a scribe line from the gun to the mount on both sides and have removed and reset the scope many times. I have gotten back to zero every time with no adjustments so far.
As for the brass being bent I reload and occasionally there will be a ding in the shoulder or body of a case but never the neck.
The only problem I had was adjusting to the higher scope mount. It will put your face higher on the comb. It took some getting used to since my other mini is a ranch with ifixed mounts.:usa:
As for the brass being bent I reload and occasionally there will be a ding in the shoulder or body of a case but never the neck.
The only problem I had was adjusting to the higher scope mount. It will put your face higher on the comb. It took some getting used to since my other mini is a ranch with ifixed mounts.:usa:
GREYBEAR,
How is the AIMPOINT side mount working out? Is it a Weaver rail or a Picatinny rail? Is it possible you could measure the length of the lands and groves and the grove depth and let me know? Also is the base flat across or is it scalloped? At this point I'm pretty close to having the B-Square mount modified to work, but I'd prefer not to go that route if I don't have to. Thanx for the info.
-davey
How is the AIMPOINT side mount working out? Is it a Weaver rail or a Picatinny rail? Is it possible you could measure the length of the lands and groves and the grove depth and let me know? Also is the base flat across or is it scalloped? At this point I'm pretty close to having the B-Square mount modified to work, but I'd prefer not to go that route if I don't have to. Thanx for the info.
-davey
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Davey,
The Aimpoint mount that I have Is roughly the same as the B-Square, about 6-7" scalloped groves about 1" apart. In one of the catologs that I have I have seen some thing where you could switch or convert a Weaver to Picatinney use. Either in Cheaper than Dirt, Shooters/Sportsmans Guide, Delta Force, or Shotgun News. If it's not in one of those, then it's in one of the many links that I have looked up from reading all thes posts. Anyway The one I put on is nice and tight,I used Locktite on all the threads,but I won't know until I get to the range sometime this week. The other mount is waiting for the red-dot I have to decide on, I won't be going with a cheap BSA, I'm thinking BURRIS, REDFIELD, LEUPOLD-GILMORE. I was also looking at the ATN, but I'm still not sure.
The Aimpoint mount that I have Is roughly the same as the B-Square, about 6-7" scalloped groves about 1" apart. In one of the catologs that I have I have seen some thing where you could switch or convert a Weaver to Picatinney use. Either in Cheaper than Dirt, Shooters/Sportsmans Guide, Delta Force, or Shotgun News. If it's not in one of those, then it's in one of the many links that I have looked up from reading all thes posts. Anyway The one I put on is nice and tight,I used Locktite on all the threads,but I won't know until I get to the range sometime this week. The other mount is waiting for the red-dot I have to decide on, I won't be going with a cheap BSA, I'm thinking BURRIS, REDFIELD, LEUPOLD-GILMORE. I was also looking at the ATN, but I'm still not sure.
GREYBEAR,
Sounds like the same Weaver rail setup. The problem is the Leupold CQ/T has an adapter mount to go on a flat top (Picatinny rail). What I don't want to do is have the scope on the adapter on a converter on a rail that is bolted to the gun with a single tensioned screw.
On the other hand, if I mill a single additional cross cut on the base and drill a hole for a vertical screw, I can essentially mimic the mount of an M-16 handle and eliminate both adapter by direct mounting the scope to the base. The question I have then is how is the quality of the Aimpoint base? Have you had a chance to compare the two side by side? What metal is it made from? The B-Square base is silver aluminum which should be easy to mill and not need to be refinished. The workmanship however is pretty rough. It would be worth an additional $35 if it will provide a more solid base. Thanx again for the info.
-davey
Sounds like the same Weaver rail setup. The problem is the Leupold CQ/T has an adapter mount to go on a flat top (Picatinny rail). What I don't want to do is have the scope on the adapter on a converter on a rail that is bolted to the gun with a single tensioned screw.
On the other hand, if I mill a single additional cross cut on the base and drill a hole for a vertical screw, I can essentially mimic the mount of an M-16 handle and eliminate both adapter by direct mounting the scope to the base. The question I have then is how is the quality of the Aimpoint base? Have you had a chance to compare the two side by side? What metal is it made from? The B-Square base is silver aluminum which should be easy to mill and not need to be refinished. The workmanship however is pretty rough. It would be worth an additional $35 if it will provide a more solid base. Thanx again for the info.-davey
The red dot site I have (again) is the Leupold CQ/T. It's unique in that it will let you do 1x as a regular red dot, and will also zoom up to 3x for longer range work. The rectical has a circle and dot, which allows you to do range estimation as well. It runs off of an AA battery, but you can use it unpowered as well. Having experience with Leupold's Mark 4 scopes, I have confidence in its construction and reliability. Now if I can only get it mounted. The mount is part of the scope and does not allow for rings at all, hence my dilemma. Likewise it will be higher up then the iron sites, and will need to put a padded cheek rest on. Lastly, the eye relief is about 2.5 inches so I can't do a scout scope setup. At over $700 for the scope, you really have to want the feature set to go through all of this to get it mounted. Once I get it all together I'll let you know how it works out. Thanx for the help.
-davey
The mount is part of the scope and does not allow for rings at all, hence my dilemma. Likewise it will be higher up then the iron sites, and will need to put a padded cheek rest on. Lastly, the eye relief is about 2.5 inches so I can't do a scout scope setup. At over $700 for the scope, you really have to want the feature set to go through all of this to get it mounted. Once I get it all together I'll let you know how it works out. Thanx for the help.-davey
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