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I have a 195 series ranch rifle with a birch stock, The only add-on is a Tech Sight. I want to love it but it just feels heavy. My favorite short rifle is my Inland M1 carbine. It’s about a pound lighter and 2’ shorter than the Ruger. What can I do to make the Ruger “handier”? Is there any significant weight saving with a sythetic stock? Which one is the lightest?
 

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I like the looks of the birch stock rifle better but went from the birch stock to the synthetic on my 584 series Mini 14.. It's my understanding the Ruger factory. synthetic stock is supposed to be lighterI. IMO it is and to me with the factory synthetic the rifle handles better, not as slick feeling as the birch and has a little more drop which lines me up a better with my Tech Sights. YMMV.
 

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Looks like the Choate handguard is a little lighter and improves cooling, but who makes the lightest stock? I’m looking at the Ruger synthetic and the Choate stock but I’m having trouble finding weights. Apparently the Ramline was light but it’s no longer available. I’ve searched the forum but the posts are often contradictory. I’d consider a new Tactical but the heavier barrel negates any weight savings and the flash hider makes the barrel almost as long at the standard Ranch. So who makes the lightest stock?
 

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In my personal experience, the Ruger Synthetic stock is much lighter the the factory Birch stock and with close to a 1" shorter LOP (about the same as an M1 Carbine). Haven't technically weighed the difference, but the Synth stock is most definitely lighter.

If you can find one, the earlier Mini-14s (with a curved butt-stock) are also light and with a short LOP. I have one that fits perfectly into a 583.
 

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Walk 12 miles wearing field gear, combat boots, and carrying a real M14 and you will appreciate how light and compact a Mini 14 is.

I dunno, I’m 73 and still love my M1 Garand and M1A.
I do have two M1 Carbines, and to me, my Mini 14 is a carbine on steroids. Perfect size, good caliber for predators. Both 4 legged and 2 legged.

My Mini is bone stock, just the way Ruger made it. She rests leaning against the wall at the head of my bed with a 20 rounder inserted.
 

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IMHO.a properly fitting syn stock is considerably liighter than wooden counterpart, and is far less susceptible to ambient moisture.

I have made a point of gradually transitioning away from wooden stocks and into Syn stocks.

YMMV
 

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IMHO.a properly fitting syn stock is considerably liighter than wooden counterpart, and is far less susceptible to ambient moisture.

I have made a point of gradually transitioning away from wooden stocks and into Syn stocks.

YMMV
Walk 12 miles wearing field gear, combat boots, and carrying a real M14 and you will appreciate how light and compact a Mini 14 is.

I dunno, I’m 73 and still love my M1 Garand and M1A.
I do have two M1 Carbines, and to me, my Mini 14 is a carbine on steroids. Perfect size, good caliber for predators. Both 4 legged and 2 legged.

My Mini is bone stock, just the way Ruger made it. She rests leaning against the wall at the head of my bed with a 20 rounder inserted.

LOL! I also have an M1 Carbine, besides my MIni-14 and Mini-30. The Mini-14 is an MN1 Carbine with a "stiffy" and the Mini-30 is an M1 Carbine on a double dose of Viagra. I also have 5.56 and 300 BLK AR15s, a PC9, and an AK in 7.62x39. As my Mini-30 is scoped, the Mini-14 in a wood stock is my home defense carbine.
 

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I don't own an AR, my Mini 14 will do everything I want with the .223/5.56 cartridge.
I have military rifles as old as a 1917 Mauser and as new as a 20 year old Romanian AK.
Germany, USA, China, Russia, Turkey, Romania all are represented in my collection. I ran out of money before I could get a Lee Enfield, a Carcano, or an Arisaka..

And even though I really, really trust and enjoy my Garand and M1A, my all around favorite is my Mini. She's my little sweetheart.
 

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During the 80s and 90s, I carried a Mini-14 or Mini-30 as an LEO trunk weapon, even though I had a Colt SP1 AR15 carbine! My Mini-30 wears a vintage Japan made Bushnell Banner 1.5x -4x scope, so it is my longer range (out to 300 yards, past that I would escape and evade!).

The 583 Mini-14 is the home defense carbine. I keep handy it for Goblins, Trolls, Zombies, and Raving Insurrectionists. I have one of my "LE Only" marked 20s that I have had since I carried a 181 as a trunk weapon in the 90s. It is full of PMC Bronze 55 grain JHPs. They will not over penetrate the Goblins, etc.

The 580 series stock is over 1/2 pound heavier than the 181 Series carbine stock I put it in. Without mag, it weighs in at about 6 1/2 pounds. 580 series stock made it well over 7 pounds. That 1/2 pound less is VERY noticeable. I also like the shorter length of pull, and I personally get a better ghost ring sight picture, too.

 

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Since we live rurally, and have a small farm, my most likely adversaries will be four legged and after our chickens.
So, my Mini has the first 8 or 10 rounds alternating between V-Max ballistic tip varmint rounds and Winchester JSP’s. The rest are plain old 55 grain FMJ.
Those will also work on two legged varmints if needed.
I will go to my grave a happy man if I never have to shoot at humans ever again. Ever again. Where we live I think I’m safe from that.
 
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.........I will go to my grave a happy man if I never have to shoot at humans ever again. Ever again. Where we live I think I’m safe from that.
I was in the military during that period too but was safely aboard a steel ship & didn't have to worry about getting shot at or shooting at anyone. Always wondered how I would've fared if I had to shoot at & possibly kill another human along with being shot at by one of them. Seems like, at first, it would drastically change someone inside but then later on it would just be a routine thing like shooting a rat.
 

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Since we live rurally, and have a small farm, my most likely adversaries will be four legged and after our chickens.
So, my Mini has the first 8 or 10 rounds alternating between V-Max ballistic tip varmint rounds and Winchester JSP’s. The rest are plain old 55 grain FMJ.
Those will also work on two legged varmints if needed.
I will go to my grave a happy man if I never have to shoot at humans ever again. Ever again. Where we live I think I’m safe from that.
I sincerely hope your wish is granted!
 

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It can be done! You may have seen my old thread on this.

 
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