Hello guys, I'm so glad that I found you, I been reading for a while trying to get the best info that I can but I finally decided to jump in. I bought my mini 14 about a month ago and I already change the stock with a Ramline lock arm and I dont know what to put on it a flash hider or a muzzle brake. I bought a scope a cheap one but I think for me it's fine for now. I would also like some advise on the trigger I heard that this improves the accurancy. Thanks hopefully I get it all put together soon so I can post some pictures. Till then, see yaa
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Mughi-14 tells how he did his own trigger job and using his advise, i did mine. worked really well for the price of some fine valve lapping compound. of course i only decreased my pull, nothing fancy. factory 8# to 3.5# pull.
i got a flash hider on mine and i get 2'' groups at 100 yards.
there's a lot of knowledgeable people here and the great thing is they answer your questions! you are in the right place.
Mughi-14 tells how he did his own trigger job and using his advise, i did mine. worked really well for the price of some fine valve lapping compound. of course i only decreased my pull, nothing fancy. factory 8# to 3.5# pull.
i got a flash hider on mine and i get 2'' groups at 100 yards.
there's a lot of knowledgeable people here and the great thing is they answer your questions! you are in the right place.
Welcome to the forum so-sider. There is no way to be accurate with an out of the box 8# trigger. Mike knifong did my trigger job, a smooth 3 1/2#.
Several of us installed the BlackWarrior Muzzle brake $19.95, which cut our average groups in half. Some like a flash hider they seem to improve accuracy some but don't seem quite as much as a muzzle brake. It seems to be a personal preference thing. Bedding your stock will help tighten your groups, and get rid of flyers.
The simplest, and most overlooked improvement in accuracy is done by finding the ammo your mini shoots best. I'm not talking expensive match ammo, but affordable. Get a box or two of several different brands, and bullet weights, using a sand bag you will see some ammo shoots much better than others.
Use the search button, and enter key words, all related posts will come up with your key words, in red.
Several of us installed the BlackWarrior Muzzle brake $19.95, which cut our average groups in half. Some like a flash hider they seem to improve accuracy some but don't seem quite as much as a muzzle brake. It seems to be a personal preference thing. Bedding your stock will help tighten your groups, and get rid of flyers.
The simplest, and most overlooked improvement in accuracy is done by finding the ammo your mini shoots best. I'm not talking expensive match ammo, but affordable. Get a box or two of several different brands, and bullet weights, using a sand bag you will see some ammo shoots much better than others.
Use the search button, and enter key words, all related posts will come up with your key words, in red.
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Welcome.
Mine is a gb so I cant help you much as far as the muzzle brake goes, but bedding the stock will really help your groups. Cagun gave you some really good advise about ammo. Dont buy any big quanity untill you find the right mini chow for your mini. The trigger is another major factor. I dont know how handy you are with a trigger group, but I sat down and figured mine out, buffed the sear surfaces and clip the springs and ended up with a sweet trigger. However I cant recomend this to anyone else. Instead, I would go with Mike's trigger mentioned above. You cant beat it for the price and everyone seems to really like his work. You came to the right place for help and info. When I began tinkering with mine it was all over the paper and in no time at all I am shooting moa and sub moa at the bench with reloads. Oh by the way, I didnt start reloading until just a few months back, and most of the info that got me off to such a good start came from right here.
Good shooting.
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Mine is a gb so I cant help you much as far as the muzzle brake goes, but bedding the stock will really help your groups. Cagun gave you some really good advise about ammo. Dont buy any big quanity untill you find the right mini chow for your mini. The trigger is another major factor. I dont know how handy you are with a trigger group, but I sat down and figured mine out, buffed the sear surfaces and clip the springs and ended up with a sweet trigger. However I cant recomend this to anyone else. Instead, I would go with Mike's trigger mentioned above. You cant beat it for the price and everyone seems to really like his work. You came to the right place for help and info. When I began tinkering with mine it was all over the paper and in no time at all I am shooting moa and sub moa at the bench with reloads. Oh by the way, I didnt start reloading until just a few months back, and most of the info that got me off to such a good start came from right here.
Good shooting.
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I got the Ramline lock-arm too and I'll tell you, it seems to be more accurate. I'm not sure if the pistol grip is a factor, or it's a tighter fit..... It's an ugly mother, but it's light. It's my third stock, (it's better than my choate anyway) and I'm sticking with it!!! As for add ons: I'm gonna stick with an Aimpoint ML-2 redot on a b-square, ejector plate mtd. mounted base (although I'm gonna get one of those Ultimaks one day), if you go to my pic you can see the barrel mtd. laser, which I can never remember the name of, but it kicks but for CQB - everyone should have one! I have a clip-on bipod that's nice and light. I guess it all depends on what you want to do with it. I have a Leuplod Vari-X II that I swear by for targets past 100 yards. But, for me though, and for now - this set up makes the most sense. I usually use Wolf HP 122 gr rounds. but this week I should finally be getting the 154 grainers - oh yeah I shoot a mini 30: 7.62x39, but it's the same thing. can't wait to test the 154's!!! If you don't mind $10 per box, PMC makes the most accurate round that I've ever shot. Real brass too. I don't ahbe a trigger job but I lapped the barrel - I'm good to go for now. Have fun man, it's an excuse to buy cool stuff!!!!
DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
You live in the PRK - A flash hider is an "evil feature" I believe muzzle breaks need to be DOJ certified and I am not aware of any for the mini that are.
I wouldn't put anything on the end of my Mini!
I don't like risk - and the benifits are few!
"978.20 (B) Flash Suppressor
This term was originally defined as "any device that reduces or conceals the visible light or flash created when a firearm is fired. This definition includes flash hiders, but does not include compensators and muzzle brakes (devices attached to or integral with the muzzle barrel to utilize propelling gasses for counter-recoil)." There were two primary problems with the definition when it was originally noticed to the public (December 31, 1999 through February 28, 2000). The most significant problem with the original definition was that it included and/or excluded particular devices by name (flash hider, muzzle brake, compensator) without consideration of whether the devices actually suppress flash. After further consideration prompted by public comments, the Department concluded that the absence of statutorily defined specific measurement standards or a statutory requirement to establish those standards demonstrates a legislative intent to identify any device that reduces or redirects flash from the shooter's field of vision as a flash suppressor regardless of its name and intended/additional purpose. Thus, "flash hiders" are flash suppressors only if they reduce or redirect flash from the shooter's field of vision. Conversely, "compensators" and "muzzle brakes" are not flash suppressors only if they do not reduce or redirect flash from the shooter's field of vision. The revised definition is clearly consistent with the legislative intent of the statute as it neither includes nor excludes any particular device on the basis of its name only. Additionally, "conceals" in the original definition presented the possibility of an overly broad interpretation which could have included any device positioned between the shooter's eye and the muzzle flash, such as the sights on a gun. To avoid such unintended interpretation, the word "conceals" was replaced with "redirects." Accordingly, the original definition was changed to: "flash suppressor means any device that reduces or redirects muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision." This revised definition was noticed to the public during the first 15-day comment period (May 10 through May 30, 2000). Comments addressing this version of the definition prompted further reconsideration and revision. As such, the definition was revised a second time by replacing " . . . that reduces or redirects muzzle flash . . . " with " . . . designed, intended, or that functions to reduce or redirect muzzle flash . . . " This change was necessary because it became clear that flash suppressors are typically attached by twisting or screwing the device onto the threaded barrel of a firearm. Therefore, by simply making a half turn (180 degrees), an otherwise fully operational flash suppressor would not function as prescribed in the prior definition. The revised definition eliminates this potential loophole. Accordingly, this final revision "flash suppressor means any device designed, intended, or that functions to reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision," was noticed during the second 15-day comment period (July 12 through July 31, 2000). Although additional comments were received, no comments were received during the second 15-day comment period that resulted in substantial revision to the definition. However, the Department made a non-substantial revision by adding "perceptibly" to the phrase "reduce or redirect" to confirm that if a reduction or redirection of flash is so minuscule that it is imperceptible to the human eye, it could not reasonably be considered a reduction."
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regs/fsor.htm#978-20
Hmmm, try explaining that to the Forest Service guy who just took your rifle!
This term was originally defined as "any device that reduces or conceals the visible light or flash created when a firearm is fired. This definition includes flash hiders, but does not include compensators and muzzle brakes (devices attached to or integral with the muzzle barrel to utilize propelling gasses for counter-recoil)." There were two primary problems with the definition when it was originally noticed to the public (December 31, 1999 through February 28, 2000). The most significant problem with the original definition was that it included and/or excluded particular devices by name (flash hider, muzzle brake, compensator) without consideration of whether the devices actually suppress flash. After further consideration prompted by public comments, the Department concluded that the absence of statutorily defined specific measurement standards or a statutory requirement to establish those standards demonstrates a legislative intent to identify any device that reduces or redirects flash from the shooter's field of vision as a flash suppressor regardless of its name and intended/additional purpose. Thus, "flash hiders" are flash suppressors only if they reduce or redirect flash from the shooter's field of vision. Conversely, "compensators" and "muzzle brakes" are not flash suppressors only if they do not reduce or redirect flash from the shooter's field of vision. The revised definition is clearly consistent with the legislative intent of the statute as it neither includes nor excludes any particular device on the basis of its name only. Additionally, "conceals" in the original definition presented the possibility of an overly broad interpretation which could have included any device positioned between the shooter's eye and the muzzle flash, such as the sights on a gun. To avoid such unintended interpretation, the word "conceals" was replaced with "redirects." Accordingly, the original definition was changed to: "flash suppressor means any device that reduces or redirects muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision." This revised definition was noticed to the public during the first 15-day comment period (May 10 through May 30, 2000). Comments addressing this version of the definition prompted further reconsideration and revision. As such, the definition was revised a second time by replacing " . . . that reduces or redirects muzzle flash . . . " with " . . . designed, intended, or that functions to reduce or redirect muzzle flash . . . " This change was necessary because it became clear that flash suppressors are typically attached by twisting or screwing the device onto the threaded barrel of a firearm. Therefore, by simply making a half turn (180 degrees), an otherwise fully operational flash suppressor would not function as prescribed in the prior definition. The revised definition eliminates this potential loophole. Accordingly, this final revision "flash suppressor means any device designed, intended, or that functions to reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision," was noticed during the second 15-day comment period (July 12 through July 31, 2000). Although additional comments were received, no comments were received during the second 15-day comment period that resulted in substantial revision to the definition. However, the Department made a non-substantial revision by adding "perceptibly" to the phrase "reduce or redirect" to confirm that if a reduction or redirection of flash is so minuscule that it is imperceptible to the human eye, it could not reasonably be considered a reduction."
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regs/fsor.htm#978-20
Hmmm, try explaining that to the Forest Service guy who just took your rifle!
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DJ - I live in CA too an have run in to the boys in green on the border many times at the place I go to shoot. they've seen the thing on the end of my 30 and never made a fuss about it. The governor, our state reps, and various other lefties may not get it - but our law enfrocemnt guys and gals all seem to understand that just because you have a "flash suppressor" doesn't make you a bad guy. thankfully they have some perspective.
Hey Poop -
I'm just "risk adverse" and don't see enough benifit to take the risk. With my luck I'd run into the guy who graduated from the "sarabradydianefiensteinchuckshumerhenrywaxman" law enforcement school and I'd be stuck in court begging for my mini back. I just a personal decision I'm not willing to play with.
I'm just "risk adverse" and don't see enough benifit to take the risk. With my luck I'd run into the guy who graduated from the "sarabradydianefiensteinchuckshumerhenrywaxman" law enforcement school and I'd be stuck in court begging for my mini back. I just a personal decision I'm not willing to play with.
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