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Hi guy's, I have a small delemma here, I recently bought a mini ranch, (or atleast thats what I ordered) what I received is a regular mini 14 SS, the dealer said that I can send it back and he will send me a ranch, this is really not the problem. I really dont want to send it back because of the shipping and the extra waiting time it will take. What I need to know is, is the standard mini still a good platform to trick out? I plan on sending it to ASI and have them replace the barrel with a bull barrel, though I want the one that still has iron sights, with a muzzel brake, then I want a larger gas block with the scout mount, or I will get the replacement forarm stock top with the scout rail. (I still havent yet found that one, so Im still not sure about which system to use)
What is the charge to have a scope mount installed on the standard model?
You guy's here have been a big help so far regarding the different barrels and people to deal with, and I know that some of you already have the set up that I want, and have gone the distance with the mini, what works and what doesnt.

Thanks, Bob
 

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Honestly, In my humble opinion. I think your barking up the wrong tree. Though I have seen some pretty tricked Mini's, aftermarket accessories aren't as readily available as that of say the AR's, and the guys I know spent alot more money in the long run trying to make a shooter out of their mini's that they could have had an even more tricked AR. I just don't think Mini's are good tweaking platforms. The way the front band with the gas port in it attaches around the barrel, leaves alot to be desired as far as barrel accustics, and accuracy. The gun was never really designed to shoot anything better than a 4MOA. And it does that well and reliably.
 

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I moved the post for you, BlackhillsBob.

gunsmithlee, I disagree about sinking money in. I have probably put $70 more dollars into my Mini Ranch for accuracy, and I'm at 1.75" groups. I just completed a glass bedding job for $18 that will hopefully tighten my groups another 0.5". I don't know yet, I'm waiting for it to cure a few days.

I cannot disagree with you that the Mini is not accurate out of the box, BUT, it sure is fun and makes a great project for those who like to tweak. If you are project oriented and like to dabble, then the Mini is perfect. Buy an AR-15 when you feel like it, but if you want an inexpensive toy to play with, the Mini is it.

I confess, I am looking at buying a Bushmaster Varminter tomorrow... Looks like it will be easy to make this into a tack-driver. Plus, again I have to give it to gunsmithlee, that accessories for the AR are a LOT easier to find, especially hi-capacity magazines. As far as reliablity, I don't know. I have had NO problems with my Mini, and I hear that the only way an AR will stay reliable is if you keep it immaculately clean. I guess I will find out...

BlackhillsBob: For your concerns regarding whether you should trade back for the Ranch style, I say absolutely! Trade for the Ranch. Much better as far as mounting a scope, if that's what you intend to do.
 

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gunsmithlee, I believe that your intentions are good, however there is a slight problem with your recommendation, to live where I live I must pay a high price, near perfect weather, no major storms, no Hurricanes, tornados, or major floods,and huge profits on real estate, things like these cost, and cost big, for I can not own a AR15 or the like, so, the existance of the Mini 14.

Actually, I like the Mini's package better than the AR, so I dont mind spending alilttle doe to make it better.

Thanks for putting this thread in its proper place!!
 

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I second what you said BlackHillsBob. Kalifornia's Attorney General has declared the AR-15 and it's derivatives as ASSault weapons. And the Kalifornia Supreme Court decreed that the Attorney General has that authority to do so.

Kalifornians do not have a choice between the AR-15 style rifle and Mini-14. We truly live in the socialist homeland of perverted law.

On the bright side, I have learned a lot about gun-smithing in my quest to accurize the mini-14. So, I say, the intellectual socialists that run this state have motivated me to learn how to make a good gun work better.



I have a question about the gas block with a scope mount. Does this have the scope sitting over the gas block? I havn't seen anything like that. Also, three-five weeks ago, there were posts about a scope rail that replaced the upper snap-on heat guard. One fellow said he got it secured with a little tweaking. Sorry I can't locate the exact posts right now. If anybody can zoom in on the specifics that BlackHillsBob mentioned, I would appreciate it.

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Hey Bob - the question for you to answer is if you want to mount a scope over the reciever. If you do, the ranch is the way to go.
But, if you're going with the scout type set-up (i'm thinking the top gas block mount would be the most stable) that renders the reciever scope mount irrevelent and a standard will do.
But...a bird in hand...or...if you can't be with the one you love...love the one you're with!:confused:
 

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BHBob, If it were my nickle, I'd get the ranch, here's why: 1) the ranch has a built in scope mount. 2) the ranch comes with 1" scope rings. 3) the brass is ejected out the side whereas the std mini's brass flys up and hits the scope. 4) with the std mini, you have to buy a mount, drilled and taped, and rings. It'll cost ya over a hundred before you can mount a scope.
Like satan, I've spent 70 to $100 tuneing my mini, and average 1.5", 5 shot groups, at 100 yds. Here is my best 5 shot group with factory ammo at 100 yds. My handloads will even be better!
Bottom line is, you can spend more if ya want ta, but ya ain't gonna get much better fer de money! Jut my nickle.:D
 

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I can't imagine not being able to own an AR-15. Or any style of Assault weapon that legally exists in this country! If I lived in Kalifornia, with my collection of assault weapons that took me over 2 decades of trolling around gun shows to find and accumulate, there is no way in hell that I would ever voluntarily turn even one of them over to the SS. I would never have registered even one of them in the first place!!!!!!!!

They would sit nice and quiet in MY safe, in MY home, on MY PROPERTY, until I decided to take it over to Nevada or Arizona to shoot. And If I got caught one day, I would hire an NRA attorney to attack the queer politicians who like to squat on decent, law-abiding Californians, like a pit bull on a dirty racoon.

There must, THERE HAVE TO BE some Americans living in Kalifornia who still hold onto their Assault Weapons, regardless of a tyranic, oppressive, law passed by their GAYvorment.
 

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I believe there are many law abiding citizens in Ca who did not register their legally purchased "assault" weapons. Neither did the criminals who could care less about gun laws.
 

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Satan2655, you are right. California gun owners are PUKES.

That could be our new state moniker:

People Under the King in Equal Subservience

You can sustitute People for Pussies if you like

KC
 

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Getting back to the subject, I like the ranch with the B-Square side mount scope. once its on there is little to go wrong. The greatest benefit is that I use the peep sights and the scope as I feel the need for.

As for our repressive state laws, I abide by them. I dont like it. But last week I went shooting twice and had a lot of fun. I guess we can sit and b*tch or get out and do some shootin!

I love to see the ammo I build do its thing in the woods. California is the only home I have ever had. I have been 2/3 rds of the way around the world but you always feel best where you were born.:usa:
 

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Good call Ivanimal,

I dont like the new laws too, but I would rather shoot something than sit around and bitch about it.

Well I took most of the advice and traded back the standard for the Ranch model, I had no problems with the dealer since I originally paid for the Ranch, I just wasnt sure if I wnated to invest the time and somewhat a hassel to ship it back. So I do now have a new SS Mini Ranch ! I may take your advice and try the side mount scope mount until I can send it off to ASI.

Bob
 

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Well folks,
I don't bitch to make me feel good.

I am trying to motivate gun owners to get involved in the culture war. Never heard of the culture war? No government ever declared it. But it's real just the same.

The Communists and Socialists are involved deeply in our government. That's why they get up in the morning. To destroy the greatest civilization ever known.

Do you'll think you'll could send a letter to your governor, senators, and legislators once in a while? Just to let them know they're doing the wrong thing? Our enemy is constantly there, pushing their agenda.

OK, I'll shut up for now.

KC
 
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