Need article on Mini14 accuracy work in May/June issue of Rifle Shoote
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Sorry bob, sometimes a large library carries magazine files. Do you remember if the article was by clark, or AR systems ect. They both have had articles in most gun mags, about their barrel stableizer which is suspose to stableize, the mini's barrel harmonics.
If its the one about the Clark barrel stabilizer, I have it sitting on my nightstand.
I have no scanner, let me know what article you need and I could mail you a photo copy.
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I have no scanner, let me know what article you need and I could mail you a photo copy.
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Thanks for the reply guys! I saw a post on one of the boards about an article in the May/June issue on accurizing mini 14's. I dont recall if it said anything specific about the article. Djskit, if you have that issue, I'll gladly cover your copy and postage costs on any articles it may have about doing accuracy work on the mini.Thanks again!
Bob Guilfoyle
HC72, Box7095
Malta, Montana, 59538
Bob Guilfoyle
HC72, Box7095
Malta, Montana, 59538
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djskit,
What's this Clark barrel stabilizer? Is it specifically designed for the mini-14?
Sounds high tech. If anyone out there in internet land has experience with it, please leave a post here.
Would the publisher sell photocopies?
Many, mini-14 thanks in advance,
KC
What's this Clark barrel stabilizer? Is it specifically designed for the mini-14?
Sounds high tech. If anyone out there in internet land has experience with it, please leave a post here.
Would the publisher sell photocopies?
Many, mini-14 thanks in advance,
KC
Yeah, its a special stabilizer that Clark has made for the mini. It looks real cool. Kinda like a barrel shroud. You lock-tite a threaded sleeve over the end of the barrel and slide the whole shroud over teh barrel and lock it down with a nut. Real "drop-in" you just have to remove the front sight.
The guy in the article has great results with it. I'm suprised no one has mentioned it yet.
http://store.shooters.com/acb/showdetl.cfm...CIAL_GROUP_ID=0
Cost is about $245.00 so its a little pricey
The guy in the article has great results with it. I'm suprised no one has mentioned it yet.
http://store.shooters.com/acb/showdetl.cfm...CIAL_GROUP_ID=0
Cost is about $245.00 so its a little pricey
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That is awesome. It sounds like a Mechanical Engineering solution to vibration and resonance. I've got to run this by my ME acquaintance at work.
KC
KC
Check out these 2 links:
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/min14con.htm
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/min14con.htm
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/
Hi All, this is my first post here. I mainly just read the postings and have gotten lots of good info on the mini-14 from this board.
I have a stainless ranch mini-14 that would shoot 4-6inch groups at 100yds with a red dot scope using surplus South African ammo. I recently put on the Clark's Barrel Stabilizer and got a trigger job done by Mike Knifong along with installing his large gas port and recoil buffer. During my first outing out after these mods, my mini averaged about 2 inch groups with the best group of the day at 1 1/2 inch. This was after firing nearly 100 sight in shots to zero the new catseye 1.5x-4x illuminated reticle scope. I did not have a bore sighter to get me on paper to begin with. Also, by the time I was done firing my groups I noticed that the barrel stabilizer had come loose and was touching the side of the gas block. According to the instructions the stabilizer should not be in contact with any part of the gun except for the barrel shroud where the stabilizer screws onto.
I have since applied some blue locktite to it and retightened it to specs. Should have done this in the first place... BTW, the trigger job from Mike made a world of difference for me. It now breaks nicely at around 3 1/2 lbs.
Next I will try experimenting with different factory loads and some handloads to shrink the groups down even more. Any recommendations as to what good factory and handloads that shoot well in the mini?
After all of this I may try to the glass bedding...as shown on Mike's video.
I have a stainless ranch mini-14 that would shoot 4-6inch groups at 100yds with a red dot scope using surplus South African ammo. I recently put on the Clark's Barrel Stabilizer and got a trigger job done by Mike Knifong along with installing his large gas port and recoil buffer. During my first outing out after these mods, my mini averaged about 2 inch groups with the best group of the day at 1 1/2 inch. This was after firing nearly 100 sight in shots to zero the new catseye 1.5x-4x illuminated reticle scope. I did not have a bore sighter to get me on paper to begin with. Also, by the time I was done firing my groups I noticed that the barrel stabilizer had come loose and was touching the side of the gas block. According to the instructions the stabilizer should not be in contact with any part of the gun except for the barrel shroud where the stabilizer screws onto.
I have since applied some blue locktite to it and retightened it to specs. Should have done this in the first place... BTW, the trigger job from Mike made a world of difference for me. It now breaks nicely at around 3 1/2 lbs.
Next I will try experimenting with different factory loads and some handloads to shrink the groups down even more. Any recommendations as to what good factory and handloads that shoot well in the mini?
After all of this I may try to the glass bedding...as shown on Mike's video.
Welcome to the mini forum Ban, sounds like you are well on your way to accurizing your mini. As far the type of ammo to shoot each mini is different. My 196 SS Ranch shoots Winchester 45 gr varminter, about 1 1/2" groups (average), and my reloads 63 grn. Sierra's average about 1.15" so far, need to tweek a little more. Still I'm pleased with it so far. I would shoot as many different types as possible, before buying 1,000 rds of something that dosen't shoot well in your mini. Bedding my mini's stock tightened groups 3/4", and got rid of the flyers. Good luck.
I definately need to experiment more with different loads for my mini. I will give the 45gr Varmint Winchesters a try. Does anyone know of a good 52gr BTHP Load?
I will probably give the glass bedding a try soon. The synthetic stock and the receiver just seem to fit really snugly on my mini that I hate to mess with it. I am really afraid of screwing it up.
I will probably give the glass bedding a try soon. The synthetic stock and the receiver just seem to fit really snugly on my mini that I hate to mess with it. I am really afraid of screwing it up.
Hey Ban, if you take out your trigger group, then grasp the receiver, and try to move it side to side in the stock, this is how much movement your mini will move under recoil. Mine moved .030" causing flyers, and a looser groups. If yours shoots good enough for your purpose, then don't bed it, but I've never heard of a rifle shooting worse by bedding it!
cajungeo,
Thanks for the tip. I will give that a try tonight to see if there is any movement. If I notice any movement then I will give the glass bedding a shot. I already have the Brownells Glass bedding kit ready to go. BTW, what type of stock is on the mini that you did the glass bed on?
Thanks for the tip. I will give that a try tonight to see if there is any movement. If I notice any movement then I will give the glass bedding a shot. I already have the Brownells Glass bedding kit ready to go. BTW, what type of stock is on the mini that you did the glass bed on?
Ok, I took my trigger group apart last night and wiggled the action in the stock and did notice that there was very small amounts of movement. I also noticed that the bottom lugs of the receiver is not even touching the stock. There are lots of areas on the receiver that are not even touching the cutout in the stock. Ok I think I move forward with the glass bedding job this weekend and see how it goes. Wish me luck. BTW, I thought that the hogue stocks are rubber only and did not realize that they are reinforced with fiberglass. I thought that they were not too good for glass bedding and therefore did not pick one up. Hmm... maybe I should pick one up now. I do like the feel of them.
Ban---The Hogue "Overmolded" stock feels much better to me than the origanal factory stock but it is still weak compared to a good quality wood laminate. I have a hard time justifying a stock that costs nearly as much as the rifle though in this case. From what I can see the Hogue is maybe an inch longer but that inch really makes a difference.
Good shooting
Bushwack
Good shooting
Bushwack
Guys,the Clark stablizer is like putting on a band-aid.It's trying to help a barrel do what it should be doing in the first place.Do it right & replace the entire barrel with a good one.The only advantage I see with this thing is it can be done by the average guy at home. :sniper:
:sniper:PSG1,
I agree that the mini-14 could use a heavier and better quality barrel. If Ruger ever comes out with something like that I would pick one up right away. For the time being I am perfectly happy with the Barrel Stabilizer.
Show me where I can have my standard mini-14 barrel replaced and installed for less than 300 bucks and I will gladly fork out the money for one.
I agree that the mini-14 could use a heavier and better quality barrel. If Ruger ever comes out with something like that I would pick one up right away. For the time being I am perfectly happy with the Barrel Stabilizer.
Show me where I can have my standard mini-14 barrel replaced and installed for less than 300 bucks and I will gladly fork out the money for one.
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