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By now you guys must know that King Cuomo and his fellow travelers have passed their passed their feel good Cuomo/Bloomberg gun law. All we poor evil guys must now try to come up with some way to make our M1-A's legal. Tough job since the bastards have done their home work in barring not only flash hiders but threads on the barrels they are attached with. Outside of removing the threads (so now there's no way to attach the sight) or silver soldering or welding the attaching nut to the barrel. I could modify the flash hider by silver soldering a sleeve over it. I have the skills to do this but I'm still stuck with the thread problem. I hate to modify this rifle because I really like it but I'm running out of ideas. I might just sell it out of state. Hate to do this since I bought it new last year. I've got a year to make up my mind so stay tuned and watch how you vote next time.
 

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Hmm, that is a pickle. From my understanding that you are allowed one feature. Why cant the flash hider be the feature and just switch to a smaller magazine? What I'm asking is that, what other aspects can you change before you start cutting on the barrel?
 

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By now you guys must know that King Cuomo and his fellow travelers have passed their passed their feel good Cuomo/Bloomberg gun law. All we poor evil guys must now try to come up with some way to make our M1-A's legal. Tough job since the bastards have done their home work in barring not only flash hiders but threads on the barrels they are attached with. Outside of removing the threads (so now there's no way to attach the sight) or silver soldering or welding the attaching nut to the barrel. I could modify the flash hider by silver soldering a sleeve over it. I have the skills to do this but I'm still stuck with the thread problem. I hate to modify this rifle because I really like it but I'm running out of ideas. I might just sell it out of state. Hate to do this since I bought it new last year. I've got a year to make up my mind so stay tuned and watch how you vote next time.
Are you sure there is no "grandfather clause" in the law? The Clinton ban allowed preban guns to still be legally owned.
 

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The only option is mass disobedience to the law. To comply is to agree. No register, no corrections, no sales, and no compliance. Why ruin a perfectly nice M1A.
 

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What these people consider grandfathering now is the equivalent of a class 3 license. My understanding is that you still have some time. Push HARD for the law suits.
 

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Hi eugene;

1. I wouldn't do anything right now, since my understanding is that you have something like a year to "make it legal", is that right?
2. Lawsuits have a real chance of lopping this one off at the elbows IMHO. Particularly the magazine ban is vulnerable post Heller, since it targets weapons in common circulation. Frankly the whole thing looks dicey post Heller, unless the Dear Leader really does have something on Roberts at SCOTUS.
3. Other options include moving the "offending" magazines and/or ordnance out of state at the last possible minute. If a standard cap magazine ban does pass federally, at least you'll have your >10 shooters.

The reason to not do anything now is that you may regret it later. Here's how:
Let's pretend you have some 20 shot preban mags for your rifle that are perfectly legal in NY. Do they stay that way if you move them out of state and bring 'em back in, or are you "importing" them? What about a legally held preban "assault weapon"? If you move it out of the state, can you bring it back, or is it no longer grandfathered on the old ban?

These are things that NY state gunowners are going to need to determine with GOOD lawyers before they do anything they may regret.

So, don't panic, get lawyers on it. Is there someone like ISRA or Calguns in your state?

Good luck and all the best,
Grumpy
 

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M1-a confiscation ban

Here's the scoop from "Group". The way the law reads is, I can sell it out of state, I can sell it to a dealer who I'm sure would not buy it since he can't resell in this state, I can sell it to an immediate family member or, turn it in to the Gestapo. I will wait to modify it untill the last moment and then either modify it or bring it to Pennsylvania (about 90 miles away). I have aout 400 rounds of ammo. I think I'll shoot the **** out of it all summer and then decide. I really hate this law because I bought it new and added a wooden forearm and looks great. Before I turn it in and have some bastard throw it on a pile of junk I'll take a torch to it and melt it into a plough share. Thanks for the advice. Stay tuned and be vigilant. Disgusted in N.Y.
 

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Here's the latest from the N.Y. State Gulag." SCOPE" ( N.Y.State Gun Organization) has taken N.Y. State, Cuomo, Fried, Skeos, and the N.Y.State Senate to court. The case is before N.Y.Supreme court. The State etc. have been ordered to "show cause" why they should not be enjoined for allowing the N.Y.State Safe Act to passed without the three day discussion required by law. This is questioning the "Message of Necessity" that Adolph Cuomo used as a pretext to by-pass public input. Stay tuned. Decision due March 11. Gene
 

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Oh I forgot to add. Originally the reading of the law allowed the transfer of the "Assault Weapon" to a relative. They took that part out. (maybe they know my relatives) I'm sure as time goes by they will tweek this beast further. Downstate hates us and they are vindictive. The courts are our only option and protection. Gene
 

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By now you guys must know that King Cuomo and his fellow travelers have passed their passed their feel good Cuomo/Bloomberg gun law. All we poor evil guys must now try to come up with some way to make our M1-A's legal. Tough job since the bastards have done their home work in barring not only flash hiders but threads on the barrels they are attached with. Outside of removing the threads (so now there's no way to attach the sight) or silver soldering or welding the attaching nut to the barrel. I could modify the flash hider by silver soldering a sleeve over it. I have the skills to do this but I'm still stuck with the thread problem. I hate to modify this rifle because I really like it but I'm running out of ideas. I might just sell it out of state. Hate to do this since I bought it new last year. I've got a year to make up my mind so stay tuned and watch how you vote next time.
The gunsmith that puts on brakes for me also makes you a screw on sleeve that when you take the brake off and put the sleeve on you can't even tell the gun ever had a brake.
 

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Hi eugene;

1. I wouldn't do anything right now, since my understanding is that you have something like a year to "make it legal", is that right?
2. Lawsuits have a real chance of lopping this one off at the elbows IMHO. Particularly the magazine ban is vulnerable post Heller, since it targets weapons in common circulation. Frankly the whole thing looks dicey post Heller, unless the Dear Leader really does have something on Roberts at SCOTUS.
3. Other options include moving the "offending" magazines and/or ordnance out of state at the last possible minute. If a standard cap magazine ban does pass federally, at least you'll have your >10 shooters.

The reason to not do anything now is that you may regret it later. Here's how:
Let's pretend you have some 20 shot preban mags for your rifle that are perfectly legal in NY. Do they stay that way if you move them out of state and bring 'em back in, or are you "importing" them? What about a legally held preban "assault weapon"? If you move it out of the state, can you bring it back, or is it no longer grandfathered on the old ban?

These are things that NY state gunowners are going to need to determine with GOOD lawyers before they do anything they may regret.

So, don't panic, get lawyers on it. Is there someone like ISRA or Calguns in your state?

Good luck and all the best,
Grumpy
I got a letter from Midway USA and it said that thw will become enforcable Janurary 14 2014
 

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eugene, please keep us posted. I do a lot of smithing for New Yorkers and keeping up with the new laws has been troublesome. I've kept up with the State Police and NYDOJ information as best I can, but you're right there in the trenches and have better real time information than I do from Montana. I would even consider it a great favor if you'd add me to your email contacts and forward or include me in your emails as all of this unfolds and other sources of information you may have. Thanks!

John
 

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The greatest part of it all is attending the town halls that have been attended by our local politicians. 3 different representatives openly admit that they didn't read the bill prior to voting on it and it's clear they have absolutely NO CLUE about guns in general. Each rep has been advised that they greatly underestimate the passion of gun owners and our feelings about our rights. Disgraceful! My wife and I have spoken sincerely about crossing the border into PA. Downstate completely rules all of NY and has ruined our livelihood. If only NJ would adopt them...
 

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NY SAFE Resolutions | Documenting County and Town resolutions on the NY SAFE act
Check out this map. All the green has passed a resolution to ban the Safe Act, all the yellow is up for vote but reccommending a ban. All the white is NYC and Tompkins County just south of me is in support of Cuomo's bill. The entire state is against his leadership on this issue, his reply, tough crap, the city and island love me and have more money!!!
 

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That's easy for you to say! We have to live in this pest hole. Even our local reps. probably would have voted for this thing but were given a pass because they had all the votes they needed. We in upstate N.Y. have no representation that's why the only shot we've got is through the courts assuming they're not in the tank also. Keep in mind the Leut. Gov. is from Rochester and is also a" party suck" who was responsible for the local gun law that reduced magazine capaqcity to five rounds in the city. Thank God I live in a suburb and only need to worry when I go through town. I'll keep you updated if I can. Keep the faith and hang on to your ass. Gene
 

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Oh. I forgot, had an order in to Samco for 7.5x55 swiss. They told me they're not shipping to N.Y. Do I see a trend? My local reloading source is out of primers and most powder. I may need to bring out my old chemistry set to reload. Stay cool we will pravail! Gene
 

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John, It wont do you much good to talk to the State Police they know less about the law than the civilians. They don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine. Which could present a real problem if one is arrested. We have a bill that no one can understand which could be good since they wont know how to charge any one. For your info. my e-mail address is [email protected]. I'll keep you updated. Watch for March 11. that's the critical date for the "show cause edict" the N.Y. Atty Gen. has to answer for. Gene
 

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I appreciate that. Between the run around in the pages of the SAFE Act and the PP presentation from the State Police I'm often left with the same impression a lot of small businesses are - stop doing business in NY. I don't want to as that would be a grave disservice to the fine folks who live in NY. I've been through the upstate and it's a wonderful place full of great folks. Keep fighting! I've worked on guns for folks from every state, and the big three for me are NY, CA and TX. For a long time keeping up with CA was hard enough, but now NY....if TX falls I won't have any hair left to pull out.
 
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