[Mike 3-4]

Hi: I'm sure someone out there has tried to mount their Harris Bipod to the Accu-Strut and eliminate the Harris adaptor. Does that affect the effectiveness of the strut? (1) Would a UTG rail adaptor work? (2) Are there photos I might be able to see? Thanks Mike 3-4

 

[calibrator]

I'm sure that you can mount anything on anything. I have several different size swivel stud (2 piece) units in my parts box that either clamp on the barrel (.44 Mag Ruger DEER Slayer size) or the magazine tube of a .22 repeater size. The larger would prolly fit your strut for a CLEAN looking solution. Most here will likely say that bipod mounting to the barrel (or strut) or even using the Harris Gas Block adapter will negatively affect accuracy. Mount a SOLIDLY anchored swivel stud in the stock forearm and consider floating the Gas Block as described on this forum, I did (along with EVERY other trick found herein) and my #187 series SS Ranch is a consistent 1.250 MOA performer. YMMV !! Joe

 

[Snake_Driver]

Yeah it's easy to do. I did it using a UTG Single Rail Barrel Mount Part #BR002S and a UTG Rail Mount Bipod. I think it works great and it doesn't hurt the performance of the strut either. If anything, it will stiffen the strut.

 

[Snake_Driver]

I would definitely say mount to the stock. Attaching things to the barrel (which you are attaching a bipod to the strut, which in turn is attached to the barrel) can change harmonics. Its not an optimal location.

I think you miss the point. The purpose of a strut on a Mini-14 IS to alter the barrel harmonics by attaching something to the barrel.

Speaking from my own experience, I can say that attaching something to the barrel strut does NOT affect the performance of the strut in any negative way.

 

[BuffDragon]

I think there's a reason most precision shooters stay as far way from their barrel as possible...

YMMV

 

[Snake_Driver]

Yet, attaching a Strut, Rod or Bar to the barrel of a Mini-14 is a proven way to control the ever present barrel whip in those guns. The effects of doing so are to bring groups down from 6" to 2" consistantly without shot stringing from heat build-up.

Th OP wanted to know if anyone had installed a bipod to their strut and wanted to see pictures of same. No one has stated that they think bolting stuff onto the barrel of a M1A or Savage bolt gun was a good idea. :blink:

 

[BuffDragon]

Yet, attaching a Strut, Rod or Bar to the barrel of a Mini-14 is a proven way to control the ever present barrel whip in those guns. The effects of doing so are to bring groups down from 6" to 2" consistantly without shot stringing from heat build-up.

Th OP wanted to know if anyone had installed a bipod to their strut and wanted to see pictures of same. No one has stated that they think bolting stuff onto the barrel of a M1A or Savage bolt gun was a good idea. :blink:

true. but attaching a strut to the barrel applies constant pressure/force in the same direction at all times. its static.
using an attachment point on the barrel for a bipod, then using the bipod or not, applies force differently each and every time you use it.
would you not agree that there is a difference in applied force to the barrel when using a bipod attached to it (effectively) versus not?

my personal point is that you're making a bad situation better by using a strut, then applying an unknown to it by using the strut as an attachment point for applied pressure. less variables = better.

IMHO and YMMV (as always)

 

[Snake_Driver]

true. but attaching a strut to the barrel applies constant pressure/force in the same direction at all times. its static.
using an attachment point on the barrel for a bipod, then using the bipod or not, applies force differently each and every time you use it.
would you not agree that there is a difference in applied force to the barrel when using a bipod attached to it (effectively) versus not?

my personal point is that you're making a bad situation better by using a strut, then applying an unknown to it by using the strut as an attachment point for applied pressure. less variables = better.

IMHO and YMMV (as always)

Buff, I'm not following what you're trying to say at all. If you will look at my pictures above you will see that my bipod is attached to the Rod and does not touch the barrel at all. In addition, my experience with the rifle, that I've owned since 1983, is that my recent adding of the bipod on the Rod did not adversely effect the rifles performance and if anything improved the accuracy by providing a more stabile aiming platform.

You can make all the arguments that you want about the theory of things, but unless you've tried it yourself and found it not to work I don't see where you've got a dog in this hunt.

 

[tobnpr]

It's all good that you attached a bipod to the strut and have noticed no adverse effects.
That's far from guaranteed.
The OP asked for opinions regarding this installation, and the fact that it worked for you, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone. Barrel harmonics are that "way"...

You're still missing the point that the strut is attached to the barrel- so anything attached to the strut is also, attached to the barrel insofar as the subject of barrel harmonics is concerned.

The points raised by CQB and Buff are correct and legit. Far as I'm concerned, any and all "barrel mounts" are taboo, be they attached to a strut, or directly to the barrel, and whether they're for a bipod, laser, or tactical light. I'll never use them.

Attaching the bipod to a swivel stud is simple...and avoids the potential for an issue.
I see no reason to take a chance, when there's no reason. My $.02...

 

[BuffDragon]

Buff, I'm not following what you're trying to say at all. If you will look at my pictures above you will see that my bipod is attached to the Rod and does not touch the barrel at all. In addition, my experience with the rifle, that I've owned since 1983, is that my recent adding of the bipod on the Rod did not adversely effect the rifles performance and if anything improved the accuracy by providing a more stabile aiming platform.

You can make all the arguments that you want about the theory of things, but unless you've tried it yourself and found it not to work I don't see where you've got a dog in this hunt.

you're right. I dont have a dog in this hunt. which is intentional. for 30 years I've lived by the theory of "stay away from the barrel at all costs".
I'm very happy that whatever you've done has worked well for you. but I think that your results are the exception, not the norm, and expressed my opinion as such.
again, YMMV

 

[njcioffi]

The problem I see with mounting the bi-pod to the strut is that while at the bench you are putting upward pressure on the barrel (via the strut) that will not be applied if shooting offhand. This is a variable, and may very well change your point of impact. my $.02

 

[jdg]

Would like to see a high speed camera shot while firing with a bipod mounted to the strut. Seems like loading the bipod would pull the barrel down, and if not consistent in your loading, seems like accuracy would suffer.

 

[A/J/S/USNRet]

+ 1 for tobnpr

It's all good that you attached a bipod to the strut and have noticed no adverse effects.
That's far from guaranteed.
The OP asked for opinions regarding this installation, and the fact that it worked for you, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone. Barrel harmonics are that "way"...

You're still missing the point that the strut is attached to the barrel- so anything attached to the strut is also, attached to the barrel insofar as the subject of barrel harmonics is concerned.

The points raised by CQB and Buff are correct and legit. Far as I'm concerned, any and all "barrel mounts" are taboo, be they attached to a strut, or directly to the barrel, and whether they're for a bipod, laser, or tactical light. I'll never use them.

Attaching the bipod to a swivel stud is simple...and avoids the potential for an issue.
I see no reason to take a chance, when there's no reason. My $.02...

Attaching the bipod to a swivel stud, both of which are simple and removable without affecting accuracy. Why make it harder than it is? KISS

 

[Pieth]

Agreed, added the Harris #2 bipod adapter last week and it was simple to do. I couldnt decide if i wanted the bipod closer to gas block or a bit further back, so I mounted the swivel at a spot where i could mount the bipod / adapter forward of the swivel or behind (i dont plan on using that swivel for a sling). I used the Harris Bipod #2 Hollow Forend Adapter - not the 2R, as that is radiused, the #2 has a flat piece that sits inside the underside of the stock.