Originally posted by 22man
1911's that would do better than that. Even 2"@100 yds would mean that you'd have a lot of shots off of a man's chest at 600 yds, even without wind or mirage considerations. How is that better than an AR15 and 223?
2 - 4" at 100 yards with iron sights is generally considered SOP for military rifles . That is with military ammo .
The M1A is a semi-auto clone of a M-14 .
With iron sights , it has to be big enough to see it before you can hit it .
Did not say the accuracy is better than a mouse gun & .223 . The terminal rffects are greater .
I once shot a 1" three shot iron sight group with an 03A3 . Quit right there before I ruined my bragging rights .
Can not see well enough to do it any more .
I have a 1/2 worn out garand that will do 2" w/ LC 69 , if the eyes corperate . 1-5/8" with match ammo . With iron sights and a well used rifle ( that is utterly reliable ) , that ain't nothing to sneese at . I certainly do not want anyone shooting at me with it !
Now as far as scoped rifles , I have a bull barrel AR upper that will put them in from a quarter to a dime , depending on the ammo & the phase pf the moon and the shooter's skill .