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Love my mini-14 ranch but i am getting quite fustrated that no one offers a mil spec rear front sight combo with return to zero & a finger dialed turns/clicks for windage and elevation.....
You guys that got the reg mini are so setup with the millett sights but us ranch rifles owners are a hurtin....
Need these so i can compete in my first civilan service rifle meet.
I can not believe ruger would not engineer a sight combo worthy of the ranch rifle. Looks really dumb having to adjust windage by finger pushing the sight left or right. then ya got to breakout with the glasses repair kit to adjust elevation. yuck....
I love my mini scoped it's hitting 2" metal gong at 200 yards scoped with wolf 62 grain ammo firing single fire loading one bullet at a time. But man i need a real rear front combo sight. I saw ashely's offering and still anything not geared is unreliable.
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I'm in the same boat. The rear site on the ranch is a joke. The front isn't any better. So far I've heard and figured out that we have only a couple of options for a rear, the ashley site or the Williams guide site. Neither of these are ideal in my opinion, neither have the easy/precise adjustment that I'd like. For the front there are a couple of options, run a search here on things like 'front sight' and 'flash hider' to find some. I just ordered an Eagle brand front sight/flash hider. Unfortunatly it's on back order, I need to call Cabellas and check on that.
 

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Folks have been complaining about the ranch rifle rear sight for YEARS.

Brownell's offers the micrometer click adjustable Williams rear sight for the standard Mini-14.

That's the only positive alternative that I know of.

Unless you want to make a custom rear sight. <G>

Dennis Jenkins

QUOTE]Originally posted by smithstoo
Love my mini-14 ranch but i am getting quite fustrated that no one offers a mil spec rear front sight combo with return to zero & a finger dialed turns/clicks for windage and elevation.....
You guys that got the reg mini are so setup with the millett sights but us ranch rifles owners are a hurtin....
Need these so i can compete in my first civilan service rifle meet.
I can not believe ruger would not engineer a sight combo worthy of the ranch rifle. Looks really dumb having to adjust windage by finger pushing the sight left or right. then ya got to breakout with the glasses repair kit to adjust elevation. yuck....
I love my mini scoped it's hitting 2" metal gong at 200 yards scoped with wolf 62 grain ammo firing single fire loading one bullet at a time. But man i need a real rear front combo sight. I saw ashely's offering and still anything not geared is unreliable.
Great board read way too many post lurking for so long.
if your not an NRA card toten member well why not?
at least get involved at your own level of comfort in local
gun and pistol range association.
semper fi
bc
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Been down that road folks. I found a sight from Williams that filled my needs. Their FP-1187 will fit the ranch model, work with the existing front sight height, and in the TK (Target Knob) configuration it is finger adjustable with positive clicks and fine adjustment. The apeture it comes with is more of a hunting sight so I went with their target aperture. It all depends on what you need to do with the rifle. Mine's a long range paper punch.
 

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smithstoo,
I've looked eveywhere and so far the best $10 improvement was Brownell's rear sight. And it ain't great. I threw away the package material, but I think it's for the 10/22. It's a blocked (ugggh) sight but has a bright white diamond and white vertical lines. One problem is I had to adjust the sight all the way down to get close to center.

Even so, at the range last weekend, with 15 rounds, I put all within an egg-shaped pattern about 16" long, with most rounds centered about 10 inches from my aim point, low and left. With iron sights at 200 yards. No practice and no chance to do better. It was too hot and other folks were doing the one shot per minute thing.

My problem with that sight is my eyes can't focus. I can do 10" better with my 98 Mauser at 200 yards. The sights on that antique is shallow v-notch at the rear and sharp-enough-to-cut matching V on the front (with hood). I'd like to try that on the mini-14!

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Reloader-
There's a fool proof that fits the ranch? The only one listed for the ranch in the williams catalog is the guide sight. Are you sure about that? It's a great deal if it is, how does it attach?

Ivan-
That's a fine sight, but it's for the regular mini, not the ranch.
 

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A month or two ago, there was a scoped mini ranch that had the folding rear sight replaced with a M1 carbine sight assembly. The dovetail had to be filed to fit while using the factory locking block. Looked a little out of place, but he said it was true at 50, 100, 200 yards. The only thing close to mil-spec IS mil-spec. Numrich Gun Parts would have that.
I cannot remember if the front sight was replaced with an Eagle combo or not. The thread had pics too.
Too many projects, too many other people's toys, not enough menory........rollingstone :confused:
 

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roll,
A fella had M1 carbine parts galore at last week's gun show. Comparing the stock mini-14 sight with the M1's and you've got to remove a lot of metal. It could be done with at least 5 dremel cutting discs (that's about my luck - tells you how steady my hands are). Then some fine grinding and touch up with a blueing pen should do the trick. It is huge, compared to the stock sight. Of course, the standard mini-14 rear sight is also huge.

If I'm going to that much trouble, I'm thinking of duplicating that Mauser 98 sight. It looks a little foreign and low tech, but works good.

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Hi,
It's not mil spec., but Check out page 269 in the Brownells catalog, or in the search on the web site go to N.E.C.G in the company search.
The ad doesn't say it will match the hight of the Ranch front sight, but there are replacements for that, or you can file it down. If you can find the company phone # I seem to remember them making one that matched the ranch for hight.

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FP-1187.. Yeah as in Remington 1187. But if you have a catalog it lists the RR as well. I called them up and found out all the particulars. It's a great sight, for $80. It requires two holes in the receiver to mount the base.
 

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i am looking at all those links
thanks for sharing
i posted my attempt of a @ home trigger job in the accurizing part of the forum under range.
for those curious
I did remove thhe scope and rear sight.
hope i don't have to do any cutting back there
has anyone tried a tang or soule sight on a mini?:confused:
have i gone too far?:eek:
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this mounts to the mini ranch's intergal base mounts as do.
but i notice there is no finger turn ajustment for windage and elevation.:(

I have exhausted all searches on the link for the williams fp-1187
sight. will try some other search engines to se if it will come up.
this is the NECG ruger reciever sight

http://www.brownells.com/Product/productDe...00&CategoryID=0

so close i wanna cry:rolleyes:
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that is a sight picture of a M1A.

see how the rear sight and front sight work to keep the sight picture centered pretty effortlessly. (easy on the eyes).

The point of impact is at the top of the blade when aligned using the common "navy hold." Other aiming techniques include the "six-o'clock hold," the "frame hold," and the "line of white hold" depending on personal preference.

The sights have adjustments for elevation and windage in 1 MOA increments (i.e. 1" at 100 yards, 2" at 200 yards, etc.).

may have to find adj sight both front and rear though.

rear sight - windage
front sight - elevation

all in all well worth it
nice
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I'm even used to mauser sights so I don't see that much wrong with the Mini-14 sights.

At least they are peep sights. <G>

Chances are you would be happier with an AR 15. There is no end to the aftermarket parts for those.

Dennis Jenkins

Originally posted by smithstoo


that is a sight picture of a M1A.

see how the rear sight and front sight work to keep the sight picture centered pretty effortlessly. (easy on the eyes).

The point of impact is at the top of the blade when aligned using the common "navy hold." Other aiming techniques include the "six-o'clock hold," the "frame hold," and the "line of white hold" depending on personal preference.

The sights have adjustments for elevation and windage in 1 MOA increments (i.e. 1" at 100 yards, 2" at 200 yards, etc.).

may have to find adj sight both front and rear though.

rear sight - windage
front sight - elevation

all in all well worth it
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I found this on another forum but they make custom sight so may be able to modify one of their products to be what you need.

www.newenglandcustomgun.com

They have sight listed for model 77's & No. 1's that fit in ruger factory mounts.

Looking on Brownells sight did find
Williams sights FOOLPROOF RECEIVER SIGHTS

M-R - Dependable Accurate Sights
Internal micrometer adjustments lock positively to prevent accidental movement of sight setting. No obstructions to impair and blot out shooter's field of vision. Weighs only 1½ oz. Standard hole spacing to fit rifles factory drilled and tapped for receiver sight.
SPECS: Aluminum, black, anodized. Steel screw. Advise Stock # from chart below.

Remington 1187

Stock No.962-200-011 FP-11/87 $65.80

962-157-520 Windage Knob, Long $6.35

962-157-240 Elevation Knob, Long $6.35
 

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Bingo! Anybody else out there using the Williams FP series sight (on anything)? I'm pretty happy with mine so far, as happy as one can be without a front sight. Just dropped the rifle and the Lyman globe off with my good friend the machinist to have a clamp style mount fabricated and fit. Why oh why can't I do anything the easy way?
 
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