Yes, they do tell the whole story, if there is ENOUGH of them. NASA did a test wherein a 5 gr plastic disk was fired at 1.5" thick hardened aluminum armor plate, at something like 14000 fps. It blew a 1.5" wide hole clear thru it.
In the early 70's, the LEAA tested the ORIGINAL Glaser 9mm ammo. It was 96 grs, at an honest 1850 fps. That's 750 ft lbs, from the 5" barrel if the very compact Browing High Power. 600 ft lbs is nothing much,really. It's just 90 grs at 1750 fps. No strain at all for the 9x23 Dillion, for instance.
If you'd prefer a 350 ft lb 45, it's because you lack experience at shooting animals with such loads. I have shot them, by the score, with many different loads. The only man with ENOUGH real experience at shooting men with handguns, NYPD Stakeout Specialist Jim Cirillo, agrees with me about ft lbs and violent expansion, as vs heavy, slow, large bullets. Jim was in something like 17 shootouts, and witnessed his partners kill another half a dozen men, back in the 60's. He sat in on literally hundreds of stakeouts, wherein over 150 armed robbers were captured or killed, all in Harlem, all black. The NAACP made NYPD stop such stakeouts, even tho it was black merchants who were being robbed and killed by such monsters. sometimes, the same guy or guys were robbing the same store twice a day!
30+ years ago, Jeff Cooper was getting a 90 gr jhp to over 2000 fps in a 6" barreled .38 super. He did so by using shortened223 cases. With today's better powders, fully supported barrels, and the thinner case (more powder) of the 9x23 Win case, this can be done in a 5" barrel. Mag Safe has offered a 64 gr bullet, at 2100 fps in 4" barreled 357 Sigs, for many years now. THV Arcane offered a 60 gr .45, at 2200 fps, over 20 years ago. They achieved this by having a very short, very pointy brass slug, with a very large, deep hollowbase.
In the early 70's, the LEAA tested the ORIGINAL Glaser 9mm ammo. It was 96 grs, at an honest 1850 fps. That's 750 ft lbs, from the 5" barrel if the very compact Browing High Power. 600 ft lbs is nothing much,really. It's just 90 grs at 1750 fps. No strain at all for the 9x23 Dillion, for instance.
If you'd prefer a 350 ft lb 45, it's because you lack experience at shooting animals with such loads. I have shot them, by the score, with many different loads. The only man with ENOUGH real experience at shooting men with handguns, NYPD Stakeout Specialist Jim Cirillo, agrees with me about ft lbs and violent expansion, as vs heavy, slow, large bullets. Jim was in something like 17 shootouts, and witnessed his partners kill another half a dozen men, back in the 60's. He sat in on literally hundreds of stakeouts, wherein over 150 armed robbers were captured or killed, all in Harlem, all black. The NAACP made NYPD stop such stakeouts, even tho it was black merchants who were being robbed and killed by such monsters. sometimes, the same guy or guys were robbing the same store twice a day!
30+ years ago, Jeff Cooper was getting a 90 gr jhp to over 2000 fps in a 6" barreled .38 super. He did so by using shortened223 cases. With today's better powders, fully supported barrels, and the thinner case (more powder) of the 9x23 Win case, this can be done in a 5" barrel. Mag Safe has offered a 64 gr bullet, at 2100 fps in 4" barreled 357 Sigs, for many years now. THV Arcane offered a 60 gr .45, at 2200 fps, over 20 years ago. They achieved this by having a very short, very pointy brass slug, with a very large, deep hollowbase.
