[Squirrelsaurus Rex]

Another question about my magazines I forgot to ask in my last post: Are they legal to use in California (they are 20's and 30's)? They are pre-ban, made before 9/14/94. Or are they banned regardless of date of manufacture? Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not up to snuff on these laws because I've never owned a semi-auto rifle. Does anyone know if they are legal in Oregon, where I'll be moving to in a few years?

 

[djskit]

OK to own and use only if you had them before the california ban.
Say you really wanted some and drove to Reno or Vegas and picked some up - you would be breakin' the law when you crossed state line!

 

[Squirrelsaurus Rex]

That's kinda silly. All you have to do is say you bought them before the ban and nobody could prove otherwise.

 

[djskit]

I read on the internet somewhere that if you need to have a dated reciept for each an every mag you own noterized with your name, all dated before the ban.

 

[rmeyer]

Rex they are legal for you to use. If anyone were to bring any across the state lines it would be illegal if caught. You can say you had them before the ban but make sure you have the toy they go to or it'd be a silly argument. As for a receipt for each mag this is not true. You don't even need a receipt for every gun you own so it would be awful dumb to try to enforce that kind of rule on mags.

 

[djskit]

THAT WAS A JOKE!

 

[cajungeo]

Rex, I would encourage you, and everyone else, to read your states laws for your self, both parts 1, and 2 (57 pages). Besides the Federal, and Calif state laws, you may also be bound by Municipal laws, which may be more severe, than Fed, or state.

Your question has been asked many times in this forum, my answer is; to stay out of prison, know the law! My brother is a prison guard in Colorado, he says some of the most popular books they read are law books.

The gun laws are absurd, but we are bound to them none the less. If one chosses to ignore them he may pay a high price. The old saying ignorance of the law is no excuse applies. Check out this link for state, and municipal gun laws: http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/statelaw...s/22edition.htm

Federal Gun laws: http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/legal/semi.htm

 

[Squirrelsaurus Rex]

Thanks for the advice, guys.

 

[akjunkie]

well, u know.. some people collect stamps. some collect comic books, and some collect HI-CAP MAGS.

you could have a whole Collection of HI-CAP mags in your possession BEFORE u decided to buy the rifle Post Y2K.

 

[cw2go]

I guess the question you have to ask yourself is: "Do you feel Lucky?"

If it were me, I leave any high caps not fully in compliance with every law out of state until you move out yourself. Is it that big a deal to just have a stack of 10 rounders to avoid possibly ending up with a criminal record, and possibly a big, nasty cell-mate who may take a hankering to ya? So do ya feel Lucky?

Intentionally violating the law is a Bad Idea. A really bad idea. Especially since the relatively inexpensive ProMags fit and feel like big-buck Rugers. Get some 10s, and if you buy high caps, keep 'em out of state.

 

[djskit]

(not a joke)
I've speculated with some people on another board about - what if you travel out of state with your "legal" hi cap mags - do you break the law when you come back in? Is that importation?
The point is that these laws suck and even if you are really careful, you could still get stuck

 

[akjunkie]

actually, i'm not joking. i personally know someone in my gunclub who bought hi-caps for mini 14's, mini 30's, M1carbines, m14's, Fal's, glocks, beretta, HKs,ETC.... and he bought ALOT.

he didnt start buyign the rifles/handguns til after Y2K.

and No, he doesnt have a receipt for the Mags. all cash n' carry at the gunshow.

and i am sure, alot of people in Kommunist Kalifornia had the same idea. buy the hi cap mags now, In CASE i decide to buy the rifle/gun later.

 

[rmeyer]

I take my hi caps with me to Arizona a few times a year to go shoot with my brother. No crime bringing them back into the state as I owned them prior to the ban.

 

[djskit]

Something to think about!

"2003 Dangerous Weapons Control Law
ARTICLE 2. UNLAWFUL CARRYING AND POSSESSION OF WEAPONS

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine."
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/dwc.htm

Hmm, define "imports into the state"?