[Ciscoborb]

I recently purchased a 197 series Mini 14 SS Ranch. I went and bid on a Choate Pistol Grip Stock and just got it. The forearm liner & stock assembly cap does no come with the Choate. The one that comes with the factory stock is too long to fit in the Choate. Does it need the liner, etc? Also the slide feels tight in the new stock. Do I need to sand it or something? I did a search on Choates, etc, and see all these comments on "bedding." Bedding, what is bedding? Don't laugh, I'm new to this. Any help would be appreciated.

Gracias,
Frank
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[voruzon]

Welcome, Ciscoborb.

I cannot help you with the details of a Choate Stock except to warn you that it is highly unlikely you could avoid using the forearm liner.

Forearm liner is the steel channel that directs the movement of the slide and protects the stock form the hot corrosive gasses vented from the pistol.
Unless the stock comes with it's own integral liner, you better figure out exactly what you are doing. Do not attempt to shoot without the liner.

I am not sure what you referr to as "stock assembly cap". The wood stocked Ruger comes with a steel reinforcement in which the recoil lugs fit and most synthetic stocks do not require that.

Bedding is easier. Stock does not fit the rifle exactly - some fits are a bit loose, which under stress of teh shooting may shift the receiver just a bit but enough to affect accuracy.
Bedding is a process of using epoxy (with fillers) to fill the gaps and fit a particular rifle receiver/barrel exactly to a particular stock.

It often improves accuracy/grouping considerably, depanding how loose the stock was originally. It may be done inexpensively ($15 for a kit that may do more than one bedding) but sometimes requires a few tries to learn to do it right. That is unless you glue the rifle to the stock and have to destroy the stock to get your rifle out. So follow instructions carefully, especially concerning the release agent and filling voids with clay.

V.

 

[cajungeo]

Welcome to the forum Ciscoborb. Voruzon is correct. You have to salvage the Forearm Liner/Stock Cap Assembly (Same part, 2 purposes).

I can't picture why it would be too long. It is made to latch into the stock. You may want to call the dealer up and see what they say. Mine would unlatch in my Hogue stock when cleaning, so I drilled a hole thru, and put a screw in it on the aft end near latch (NOT IN THE SLIDE ASSY PATH!). if you have a chanel on the stock near there, drill , and install a screw, and trim a bit to fit. ( Not on the gas block end, trim on the receiver end!)

Do not fire without it or you will most likely damage your mini!

 

[GREYBEAR]

Ciscoborb,
I have the Choate Pistol Grip stock also and had the same problem at first, I fixed it with a needle nose plier, a little bending and the problem went away. I will be getting another Forearm Liner and Stock Reinforcement so that when I switch to the wood stock I won't have to switch these parts too. You can see my MIni in the Gallery.

:beer: :rapid:

 

[Ciscoborb]

Voruzon,Cajungeo and Greybear. Thanks to all of you for your replies. You have all been very helpful. I have learned a lot and have a lot to learn. This is a geat site. Loads of info. I will be passing it along to my amigos.

Frank :ar15:

 

[mtnwatcher]

Ciscoborb, welcome.

i have just bedded my choates stock and got good results. check out my thread. bedding is an absolute neccessity if you wanna hit anything over 50 yds. smaller than a basketball, for most mini-14s from what i've heard, and i know that's what i had to do to mine. check out Ed Harris's article on the subject.

i didn't have any problems with the stock parts fitting in the choates stock. i glassed(bedded) the end where the cap on the liner hooks so i can switch back to the wood stock easily.

i am happy to share any of my experience.

 

[cw2go]

Fitting the metal stock liner parts into a new synthetic takes a bit of head-scratching to figure out how they fit together, but they should fit. It is a lot easier if you have a stock handy with the parts still installed so you can see how they fit. I generally recommend people buy new liner parts from Brownells so your old stock remains usable.

These are the parts I ordered for my SS Mini, and the discount prices (if you tell them you are a business):
780-000-551 391 Mini14 stock liner/cap ass'y, SS 9.76
780-000-545 391 Mini14 stock reinforcement, SS 8.05
780-000-575 391 Mini14 stock reinforcement screw, SS [email protected] = 2.38
780-000-863 391 Mini14 stock reinforcem't lock washer, SS [email protected] = 2.38

You can skip the washers if you want since they are items you can get at a hardware store for .08 each

BTW - A Mini-14 does not have a slide, except for one very stock variation (which allowed you to rack the slide to chamber a round). Slide shotguns have slides. Garand-type actions have an Op Rod (operation rod) to operate the bolt.

-- cw

 

[Ciscoborb]

Thanks for the info. I will heed and order the part 1st leaving the original stock "as is." I am new to the rifle thing. I have owned handguns for over 20 years. Before I posted this thread I wanted to make sure I was naming the parts correctly. I went into my Ruger Instruction Manual and checked the the exploded view of the Mini, copied down the part # and went to the parts list. The part I was talking about is listed as follows:

Part Name Part No. Model
Slide Assembly MS23701 Mini 14 Ranch Models

I checked the parts list for an Op Rd and could not find it. So I guess maybe the Mini 14 does have a slide.

 

[cajungeo]

Hey Ciscoborb. You are correct, the mini does have a slide rod. It is the same as we oldtimers usta call op-rod. I still slip sometimes, but Ruger calls it slide rod assembly.

Also for cheaper parts check out this link: http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp...20RANCH%20RIFLE

 

[Ciscoborb]

cw2go & cajungeo

Thanks for the infor regarding the parts. I ordered same and am anxiously awaiting them.

Frank
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[singleside]

I like this stock use it in both the mini14/30,nice to have different options and the light weight. Singleside out.

 

[Ciscoborb]

cw2go & cajungeo

I got the parts, installed them and everything is working fine. Thanks,
Frank:ar15: