[usmc0341]

I will be the first to admit that I am not a Glock fan, however, I definitely think the second strike capability is worthless and overrated IMO. If my weapon fails to fire I'm not going to waste my time pulling the trigger again HOPING that it will fire. I will simply rack the slide and get a round in the tube that will fire. Not to mention as an instructor the most common malfunction of this type that I see is the student not making ready and attempting to fire the drill. Utilizing the second strike capability in this scenerio will only produce another click. I teach the old Observe, Tap, Rack, Bang method simply because it will get the gun back into the fight quicker.

I personally recently switched form a Kimber Raptor II to a S&W M&P 9mm as my carry gun and can relate to the majority of the OP.

 

[usmc0341]

Can't really say it is overrated if it is your last round.Your training lacks real world situations where ammo is limited to what an officer can carry.

Real world training should involve ammo and mechanical malfunctions ,as they are unlikely to happen at the same time,they are both relevant and not beyond possibility.

I don't know if this was directed at me or someone else, however, my "real world training" consists of 7+ years in the infantry and 6+ years as a firearms instructor along with 4 combat deployments thrown in.

I know that police officers carry typically a combat loaded pistol with an average of 14 rounds and typically two spare mags. This gives them 42 rounds. If they can't solve whatever they need to solve with this and their patrol rifle and their backup forces then they might want to utilize more marksmanship training.

IDK what everyone else does but my weekly training consists of multiple target engagements, timed engagements, Close quarters engagement (-3yds and in) all this is done utilizing ball and dummy loaded mags and also occasionally empty casings loaded into the mags by my range partner who is also a Marine Corps CQB instructor to induce weapons malfunctions. We load each others mags so there is no way of knowing what your loadout is.

Therefore in my humble opinion I think the second strike capability is worthless. What are the chances of your very LAST round failing to fire and you having the time to utilize the second strike capability. Also how many modern CENTERFIRE rounds fail to fire from a solid primer strike but ignite on the second? The chances of all these things happening at the same time as so slim that i'm sure that I can live comfortably without the second strike capability. I think that I have seen something like this happen once on a range with a 5.56mm round and it was initially a soft strike.