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Thanks from a new member for all the help you've provided so far. I just sent my preban to DRC to get the treatment. I would like some opinions on Muzzle brakes verses flash hiders. I am going to have Dave install the Choate front sight. He can make it into either a flash hider or brake since my gun is a preban. Since there is not much recoil with these guns in .223, wouldn't the flash hider be the way to go or does the muzzle brake help you that much in staying on target with follow up shots. I would think the flash hider would seem signifcantly quieter to the shooter. Any opinions would be appreciated, thanks.
 

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I am personally a fan of the A2 style flashhider, and although I employ a muzzlebrake (Accubrake from Weatherby) on a .300 Weatherby Mag, I did not see a major improvement in accuracy for the bolt gun-it is so accurate out of the box it is not funny. I would think you were right-the .223/5.56mm round has virtually no real recoil to speak of, if you can have a flashhider and have the bottom slots left out, go for it. The real plus I might see with a muzzlebrake is for faster follow up shots. I have an Eagle flash-hider on this particular mini-14, and it compliments it nicely.
Ever see an A2 or M4 fire at night?:D
 

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The sound will be greater to the shooter with either the flashhider, or muzzle brake as gasses from both are vented up, and out, so is the sound.

If your going to cut your barrel, the muzzle brake probably won't improve the accuracy anymore than the flashider, as cutting stiffens the barrel, but it would help with muzzle jump. If you arn't going to cut the barrel, a brake will probably help accuracy more. A lot of members use the BW double muzzle brake, same as the John Mason. Cost $19.95, and we install it ourselves. Pins over the front sight.

Either way if you have open holes or slots in the bottom, and shoot in the prone position, you may get blasted with sand, and dust.
 

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cajungeo:... John Mason. Cost $19.95, and we install it ourselves. Pins over the front sight.

$13.33 at Midway.

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Right, when you order many things or at several places, you have to look at the total cost. I've ordered from 4 places at once. Certainly it does not pay to just order one thing at some place because it's cheapest without regard to the shipping charge.

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Originally posted by cajungeo
The sound will be greater to the shooter with either the flashhider, or muzzle brake as gasses from both are vented up, and out, so is the sound.

If your going to cut your barrel, the muzzle brake probably won't improve the accuracy anymore than the flashider, as cutting stiffens the barrel, but it would help with muzzle jump. If you arn't going to cut the barrel, a brake will probably help accuracy more. A lot of members use the BW double muzzle brake, same as the John Mason. Cost $19.95, and we install it ourselves. Pins over the front sight.

Either way if you have open holes or slots in the bottom, and shoot in the prone position, you may get blasted with sand, and dust.
I believe the Choate flashider does not have an open hole in the bottom.
 

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Thanks for all of the opinions. I guess my main question, since I have a preban, is the recoil reduction in the muzzle brake worth giving up the benifits of the flash hider?
 

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Originally posted by maddog7
Thanks for all of the opinions. I guess my main question, since I have a preban, is the recoil reduction in the muzzle brake worth giving up the benifits of the flash hider?
I would say no. If you ever want to use your MINI for home defense, the flash hider is a feature more important than a muzzlebrake. Most opinions on minimal SHTF rifles rank the flash hider as a very important feature. I believe that a pre-ban with a flashider would command more $ than a pre-ban with a muzzlebrake, if you ever decide to sell. IMHO.
 

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I think you may be right valleypine. Have you or anyone else seen a Mini with a choate flashhider fire a round in the dark? Is the choate very effective?
 

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The Eagle does not have have the slot milled in the bottom, and is pretty effective for a flash hider using M855 at night, compared to an H&K SL8-the SL8 produced a HUGE fireball, and the Eagle spread the flash around quite nicely. But in real life you may never have to shoot at night. Don't know about the Choate though. Between the two, I'd vote for the flash hider.
 

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Originally posted by maddog7
I think you may be right valleypine. Have you or anyone else seen a Mini with a choate flashhider fire a round in the dark? Is the choate very effective?
I've not seen it. You may wish to pose the question to Choate or DRC. But personally, if I was going to chop a MINI-14 barrel down to 16", I wouldn't install a flash hider or a muzzlebrake. I would prefer to have the extra muzzle velocity instead. But this is only my preference, probably because I have a post-ban AR without a flash hider or muzzlebrake and I would want to keep symmetry between the two.
 

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anyone have any experience with this mini-30 flash hider from Bushmaster?

Mini 30 Slip-On Flash Suppressor

Our Price: $ 29.95

Quantity:
Part #: RM30
Options: Blued Steel Stainless Steel $34.95

This heavy duty suppressor locks securely and permanently in place around the rifle's front sight (requires removal of front sight pin, new pin included). Hides muzzle flash and reduces muzzle jump. Machined from Blued Steel or Stainless Steel (shown).

 

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45leadslinger,

Here it is at a more reasonable price. Many people on the board, including myself,have this Muzzel Brake and I think most of 'em love it. Really helps followup shots and probably helps as a flash hider. Not to mention it tightens your groups a bunch.

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/423746

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Sweet!!! it is on my purchase list for tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

I have purchased the combo kit for the 30 from Mike @ NW Shooters Support and the accuracy has improved and recoil reduced. I havne't had the time to glass bed the stock yet but having great fun with it. I am really begining to enjoy this one as much as my old mini14.

Just ran across this at Interordnance of America, LP Optics looks like good deals for the 30 and the 10/22:

http://www.interordnance.com/Merchant2/mer...ory_Code=Optics

These two products in particular:

IOAABSRDSIGHT IOA Red Dot 1x30 ABS Optical Sight 1 $7.00 $7.00
IOARD1X30 IOA Red Dot 1x30 Optical Sight 1 $31.95

Thanks again!!

I knew you guys wouldn't let me down.
 

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Like so many others on this thread, I recommend the John Masen double muzzlebrake/flash hider. It does an excellent job of damping barrel harmonics, and produces a dramatic increase in accuracy.

Note that mine wasn't a totally tight fit (others have reported this problem as well). It requires a small shim of brass, aluminum or even a strip cut from a tin can to make the brake fit snugly.
 
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