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The Remington is a good gun, but not as a "Defencive " type firearm. You would be better served by a Mini-14, Ak-47, a FAL, or even a SKS. For one thing, .30-06 is a bit heavy for defensive use, though it has been used to good effect in the past. Also, the 7400 is too prone to jamming when dirty for my taste Add to that that it is more complicated to take down and clear and it all spells bad news for the Remmington as a defensive or assault type weapon.:2guns:
Also remember that a defense weapon would be one that is light and the ammo available. If everything goes to pot, remember that the military and most police departments are using 223. That is what I have in a rifle and AR15. If your on their side, I am sure they would share ammo with you.........
Either 44 mag or 30-30.
You can get 10 rounds in full length tube mag & lever them out really quick.
Un-armored will go down quick w/ 44 mag. Even armored will not go un-noticed as I knew a deputy who was shot at close range and the vest saved his life but he was stunned to the point where he couldn't respond and had cracked ribs.
You can get 10 rounds in full length tube mag & lever them out really quick.
Un-armored will go down quick w/ 44 mag. Even armored will not go un-noticed as I knew a deputy who was shot at close range and the vest saved his life but he was stunned to the point where he couldn't respond and had cracked ribs.
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·I really like my High Point 9mm carbine for a home defense gun, short and light, its easy to manuever. The laser targeter makes shots very intuitive and allows best use of cover. There is the obvious down side of a 10 round magazine, though. I have the recoil pad on the butt, and it holds 2 spare mags. Mine has been 100% reliable after the first couple of boxes of ammo.
Its cheap to shoot and practice with, light on recoil, and the company that makes it backs it up 100% for life.
Its also very inexpensive compared to a lot of other carbines out there.
Its not the all purpose rifle, though. I wouldn't want to shoot mine over about 75 meters or so.
Its cheap to shoot and practice with, light on recoil, and the company that makes it backs it up 100% for life.
Its also very inexpensive compared to a lot of other carbines out there.
Its not the all purpose rifle, though. I wouldn't want to shoot mine over about 75 meters or so.
If you want to get yourself a good defensive rifle, I don't know if you want it for home defense or what, at a cheap price just pick up a "shorty" AK-47. Or, if you happen to own a para-ordnance hi-cap 1911 style pistol you can do like I did and pick up one of those carbine conversion units that they sell all over the place. It makes a great little shorty rifle with the stopping power of a .45acp. With the hi-cap para ord frame I have with 15 rd clips it makes a nice little home defense gun or a good plinker, they are pretty accurate, at least the one I have with a regular ole red dot sight on it. I also added a bolt on flashlight and laser pointer on mine, more for the look than anything else though
Good suggestions..
I take it the Rem is a gun you already have..so to answer your question..yes. Whatever you have in your hand is good (better than nothing). Is it what you should go out and buy? Depends what you mean by "defensive weapon". But more than likely its not the best choice.
When the crapola hits the fan give me an M1a with 200 rounds and several magazines.
After the dust settles and I'm on watch give me a M40A3
When I gotta put it in their ribs and make them move backwards one foot I'll take a 1911.
Something cheap to keep behind the seat of your rusty pickup, get a 50's russian sks..ammo is cheap and it will shoot 2 MOA no matter what.
I take it the Rem is a gun you already have..so to answer your question..yes. Whatever you have in your hand is good (better than nothing). Is it what you should go out and buy? Depends what you mean by "defensive weapon". But more than likely its not the best choice.
When the crapola hits the fan give me an M1a with 200 rounds and several magazines.
After the dust settles and I'm on watch give me a M40A3
When I gotta put it in their ribs and make them move backwards one foot I'll take a 1911.
Something cheap to keep behind the seat of your rusty pickup, get a 50's russian sks..ammo is cheap and it will shoot 2 MOA no matter what.
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Go with something you can shoot well. It wont matter what you got if its all over the place. My 2 cents. Shot gun and a hand gun in at least 9mm. And practice, so shots become second nature. But what do I know, I dont even have the sence to get out of PRK (Peoples republic of Kalifornia) A mini 14 would be cool to.
Go with something you can shoot well. It wont matter what you got if its all over the place. My 2 cents. Shot gun and a hand gun in at least 9mm. And practice, so shots become second nature. But what do I know, I dont even have the sence to get out of PRK (Peoples republic of Kalifornia) A mini 14 would be cool to.
Going to add something thing here.
If your taking a defensive weapon for the HOME, forget the rifle or shotgun. You better remember the length of the weapon and going around corners of the home with a weapon that you have to stick out in front of you gives a bad guy something to grab. Handguns are much better for the home. Also again if were talking home defensive weapons, you have to make sure that the bullets that your using will stop a bad guy in his tracks but will not go through walls. (Hollow points are a must.)
You have your family in the same house plus neighbors. A rifle round or solid bullet can and will go through numerous walls. I personally saw the effect of a 9mm hollow point round that went through 4 walls (did not hit any studs) in the same home then though the neighbors walls and lodged into the side of a freezer in the neighbors garage. This round was fired by an officer in a shoot out. Thank GOD that there was not any civilians standing in the path of that bullet.
Some of the above posts were totally true. If you choose to use a shotgun, use a short barrel and use bird shot. At close range the effect is lethal but will not go through walls. Forget the slugs for the shotguns. They are for stopping......hummm.....cars, elephants and realllly big stuff. They are not a home defensive devise.
If your taking a defensive weapon for the HOME, forget the rifle or shotgun. You better remember the length of the weapon and going around corners of the home with a weapon that you have to stick out in front of you gives a bad guy something to grab. Handguns are much better for the home. Also again if were talking home defensive weapons, you have to make sure that the bullets that your using will stop a bad guy in his tracks but will not go through walls. (Hollow points are a must.)
You have your family in the same house plus neighbors. A rifle round or solid bullet can and will go through numerous walls. I personally saw the effect of a 9mm hollow point round that went through 4 walls (did not hit any studs) in the same home then though the neighbors walls and lodged into the side of a freezer in the neighbors garage. This round was fired by an officer in a shoot out. Thank GOD that there was not any civilians standing in the path of that bullet.
Some of the above posts were totally true. If you choose to use a shotgun, use a short barrel and use bird shot. At close range the effect is lethal but will not go through walls. Forget the slugs for the shotguns. They are for stopping......hummm.....cars, elephants and realllly big stuff. They are not a home defensive devise.
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·Why bird shot? Penetration is really poor with that small of a shot. The little balls don't have the needed momentum to penetrate. You're going to need to be extremely close to stop a determined attacker with bird shot. I've got several areas in my home where a 10-15 yard shot would be quite possible. I suppose if you had an apartment, bird shot might be the way to go.
I use 00 buck shot, although my shotgun is not my primary defensive weapon, it could be what's handy. I've been reading about some tests that I might duplicate to compare other sizes of buck shot at a range.
I use 00 buck shot, although my shotgun is not my primary defensive weapon, it could be what's handy. I've been reading about some tests that I might duplicate to compare other sizes of buck shot at a range.
If I were going to use a shot gun, I'd use the new mini shot shells. They will do the job, but way less damage to other areas of the house.
Now I will agree with coyote, if I'm going to defend my house, from someone kicking in the door day or night, I have a couple of pistols hidden, I can reach em quick day or night.
Now I will agree with coyote, if I'm going to defend my house, from someone kicking in the door day or night, I have a couple of pistols hidden, I can reach em quick day or night.
If you're looking for a reliable .30-06 autoloader (semiautomatic), then the M1 Garand is it. General Patton called the M1 Garand "the best battle implement ever devised".
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You can get a genuine USGI one from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP).
You can get a genuine USGI one from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP).
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I have a Remington 7400 for hunting here in Sweden and I like it alot. As for defensive purposes , recoil is quite big. I myself bought a tactical pistolgrip for my 7400 that I like alot. accuracysystems have them custom made. Atleast it make the 7400 look alittle bit more defensive
Remington tells me that the 7400 will not cycle correctly if it is not fired from the shoulder. They say that it needs something to push against. Do you find this to be true? Have you had any jamming problems with it? Do you consider it to be reliable enough for home defense?Originally posted by Diligentia
I have a Remington 7400 for hunting here in Sweden and I like it alot. As for defensive purposes , recoil is quite big. I myself bought a tactical pistolgrip for my 7400 that I like alot. accuracysystems have them custom made. Atleast it make the 7400 look alittle bit more defensive
Doc: The only reason that I suggested bird shot.......like #9 shotgun shells is the fact that if I am defending my home I bet a family member is somewhere within it. 00 buck is a killer for sure, but you have from 9 to ? pellets in that round. Plus 00 buck will go through a wall just like a 32 cal. handgun rounds would. I would hate to think that the round I fired at the bad guy, went through the wall and struck a family member. I would guranette that all the 9+ rounds in the 00 buck will not hit the bad guy and you will have some fliers. #9 bird shot will take out the bad guy and will not go through a wall. Sometime shoot a 1 gallon plastic container of water, at 15 yards with bird shot. You will be very surprised at the damage that it does.
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