[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

Anyone shoot cast bullets in there m9a1 or any 9mm pistol for that matter ?
how was the results ? vs. jacketed ?

oregon trail?
meister?
hunters supply ?

 

[magnomark]

Roll my own-got to cast hard-like wheel weights with tin and antimony,124 grs,work very well.....No expansion tho!

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

well not to concerned with expansion, just want penetration and no leading.

 

[8Ring]

From time to time I've used hard cast (92-6-2 alloy) lead bullets in my CZ 85. They work OK but get the barrel quite dirty in a short time. This may be due to the relatively fast rate of twist on the CZ. I generally shoot bulk jacketed bullets in my CZ such as Montana Gold or Zero with great results. In my experience Oregon Trail bullets are a waste of money, they do nothing a good quality hard cast bullet can't do and often cost as much or more than jacketed bullets.

For plinking I've used Billy Bullets 135gr moly-coated lead round nose over 3.8gr N-320. These are reasonably accurate, soft-shooting, and leave far less mess in the barrel than straight lead bullets.

Chris

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

Montana gold huh ?

 

[45K20E4]

I have been using Precision Bullets moly-coated cast lead for 12+ years. The moly-coat minimizes leading, and they are very accurate. I use them in both 200gr SWC for my .45 and 115gr LRN for my 9mm.

My P95 (now sold to a friend) has over 25K rounds through it mostly Precision Bullets, and it still holds a good group.

Precision Bullets Index Page

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

thanks 45k i might try some of their 125 grn fp want to order bulk but not sure if ill like them. You think they will handle 1250 fps without leading ? I may order a small batch first.

anymore ideas anyone ? or cheap copper plated ?

 

[AABEAR]

To keep from leading bad use molly as a lube I got it from Midway. Look for the powder moly. Around 23.00 it will do thousand of bullets. Look up #183655 this get you to it. If you use it in your tunber put some # 9 shot in in the tumber so it will do a better job. GOOD LUCK

 

[45K20E4]

It's unlikely you would 'dislike' the Precisions.

I have ordered 25-30,000 bullets from them since Y2K. Product has been very consistent, both in quality and accuracy.

Maybe I'm a bit biased, since it's a Texas based operation, and I use to shoot with the owner at Waco (IPSC).

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

Nothing wrong with Texas except its so damn hot. I remember training there at fort bliss and fort hood with body Armour on. It sucked balls. I might call them next week and order some. If I do I will mention your name.

 

[45K20E4]

If I do I will mention your name.

Heh..not like they know me...LOL. There are people in IPSC that order WAY large quantities than I.

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

oh ok well thank you anyway, the prices look great, compared to jacket stuff, if its good enough for competitors it has to be good enough for a plinker like me. Just like my plinkers loaded a little warm, don't want any leading.

Edit -
I think I responded to quickly, you said you shoot with the owner, but they don't know you ????

 

[usmc0341]

Black Bullet International...

I use them and with 4.5- 5 grains of clays universal (I don't remember which I settled on as it has been awhile since I rolled any)

Minimal leading and a little smokey but not too bad.

Price is pretty good as well and as far as accuracy goes I average less than 2" at 7 yds 3-4" @ 15, and beyond that I can keep it in the IDPA chest circle.. Hey I never claimed to be a phenomenal pistol shot, however, my handloads with a .45Acp coming out of my old Kimber were much tighter so I blame the equipment

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

Black Bullet International...

I use them and with 4.5- 5 grains of clays universal (I don't remember which I settled on as it has been awhile since I rolled any)

Minimal leading and a little smokey but not too bad.

Price is pretty good as well and as far as accuracy goes I average less than 2" at 7 yds 3-4" @ 15, and beyond that I can keep it in the IDPA chest circle.. Hey I never claimed to be a phenomenal pistol shot, however, my handloads with a .45Acp coming out of my old Kimber were much tighter so I blame the equipment

I think you might have went with clays because if you look at their website thats one of the recommended powders. I was thinking of using titegroup, but they advise against it.

 

[Drache Teufel]

sorry attaching this thread to profile-- got re-opened woooohoooo !

 

[45K20E4]

Edit -
I think I responded to quickly, you said you shoot with the owner, but they don't know you ????

I shot with him, and 40-50 other people at the monthly Waco IPSC match from '98-'00. Other people in regular attendance were Dave Skinner (former owner of STI International) and Dave Dawson (Dawson Precision) and Mick Nelson...all IPSC Grand Masters. These were all people I talked to and learned a lot from when I started out. However, I edited that out because I didn't want to leave the impression that we were good buddies or anything.

Just as an FYI - I have been loading my 9mm with 4.0gr of Bullseye and it has proven to be very accurate over the years. Bullseye is not the cleanest powder, although by no means the dirtiest either. Some pro silhouette shooters swear by a 200gr SWC 45acp backed by 3.6gr of Bullseye to be the ultimate target load. That exact load in my Kimber will return 1" accuracy at 25 yards if I do my part (read: stay off the caffeine :wacko.

 

[usmc0341]

I think you might have went with clays because if you look at their website thats one of the recommended powders. I was thinking of using titegroup, but they advise against it.

I went with Clays because it was recommended to me by an older gentleman that I respect and know that he has considerable knowledge on reloading. What I was referring to was that I couldn't remember the actual CHARGE that I used. 4.5 or 5 grains..

I used 4.5 gr of bullseye for my 200 gr LRN from Missuri Bullet back when I still had my 1911. It was ACCURATE! I had to switch from LSWC because the Kimber that I had HATED that profile.. It only marginally disliked the LRN...

 

[45K20E4]

I went with Clays because it was recommended to me by an older gentleman that I respect and know that he has considerable knowledge on reloading. What I was referring to was that I couldn't remember the actual CHARGE that I used. 4.5 or 5 grains..

I used 4.5 gr of bullseye for my 200 gr LRN from Missuri Bullet back when I still had my 1911. It was ACCURATE! I had to switch from LSWC because the Kimber that I had HATED that profile.. It only marginally disliked the LRN...

My Kimber was not a big fan of SWC bullets until it received some custom work by Tony Kidd. Now it will eat anything I feed it.

 

[Back Again (Drache Teufel)]

ok thanks for the input guys. I am still wondering if i should try cast been reading up a bit and read alot about slugging my bore. maybe should do that first.

 

[45K20E4]

Meh....up to you. Honestly I have never slugged a pistol bore.