I've only seen a few at shows around here priced at $650.00. Never seen one at the range yet. If one could be had for $450.00-500.00 I might bite. 650.00 is a little to much though. A dealer told me his price on that new KEL-TEC 223 rifle was going to be 360.00 and he planed on peddling them for 440.00-450.00. I think they'll be a few new pieces out this year. The new Beretta CX4 STORM carbine looks interesting also.