[hunter48]

I am a bit of a newbie but I was wondering what a gun like this would be worth:
Brand New Never Fired
16" Rock River Arms Upper Aeroprecision stripped lower
RRA lower parts kit
RRA two stage trigger
adjustable gas block
LaRue Tactical monolithic rail
Magpul flip up sights
NC Star illuminated reticle, quick detach scope
Magpul 6 position collapsible stock
bipod
Single mount sling
Magpul pistol grip

I can't figure out how to get a picture.. But just wondering if someone could give me an approximate value on the gun. Thanks.

 

[woodstock]

Sounds like a pretty solid set up. A month ago would have said around $1150-$1250. Right now, probably more like $1250 to $1800 depending on where it was listed.

 

[hunter48]

Hey thanks for the reply, the guy I'm trying to deal with says $1500 a month ago and now wouldn't go less than $2000... Just feel like I could get something better with two grand.. Any advice??!!

 

[sharky8js]

See if he'll take $200 off without the NC scope - it's crap anyway.

 

[woodstock]

See if he'll take $200 off without the NC scope - it's crap anyway.

I agree but that is still steep in my opinion. Have a look at this:The Firing Line Forums
Personally I think for $1600 this is a much better deal.

 

[hunter48]

Hi again, I am still working on a trade for this gun. I've got some new information and was wondering if this would affect anything.. First off the guy said the gun was built by Jamie Wiedeman, "a premier ar builder in the world" and "former delta force operator". Just wondering if anyone has heard of him, have tried doing some research and found a few good articles.
He also said:
"The Lower Receiver was a stripped Aeroprecision unit. They make some of the best lowers out there and also machine parts for Boeing, Lockheed, and other companies in the aerospace industry. This lower was then assembled with a Rock River Arms parts kit, and also a Rock River Arms National Match Trigger."

and

"The upper receiver is a Rock River Arms 16” that Jamie removed the front sight, installed an adjustable gas block(to precisely set gas pressures to minimize any recoil) and installed a LaRue Tactical free float quad rail. LaRue is as good as it gets, and the rail alone was over $500. The scope is nothing special, it is a NcStar Mark III with an illuminated retical and quick detach lever. The quick detach lets you pop up your Magpul MBUS front and rear sight and shoot it old school if you want. The pistol grip, buttstock, and rail covers are all Magpul FDE (flat dark earth). This is a very cool weapon, and it has had less than ten rounds down the barrel. Just enough for the builder to dial in the gas block. It also has a Magpul ambidextrous single point sling mount and a single point sling. It comes with two thirty round mags."


Just wondering if you could help get a closer evaluation with this new info, trying to make a deal just would like it to be closer in value to what I am trading: $2000 to $2400 area.

Thanks again for all your help, I really appreciate it.

 

[woodstock]

Aero Precision is good quality. Nothing special. Rock River National Match trigger a month ago sold for $109 from Bud's. I know cause I bought one. A lower parts kit is pretty much a lower parts kit. The trigger is about the only thing that makes one different from another. As for the $500 LaRue quad rail well, first I personally don't care for quad rails and second, anyone that would pay $500 for one has way more money than they do sense IMO. Magpul MBUS are ok, nothing special. I much prefer back up iron sights like Yankee Hill Machine (not a big fan of plastic on items that could easily get broken). As I said to begin with it sounds like a pretty solid set up but it isn't worth nearly that much to me. I guess it just depends on how bad and how soon you want one. How much is the "coolness factor" really worth to you. Personally, I would go for the Sig 400 for $1600 I linked to earlier. A much better deal in my opinion and then customize it how you want as you learn the weapon and figure out what you want to change. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing to gain or lose either way here. I just hate to see people taking advantage of the situation with outrageous mark ups. My honest opinion, I would not consider giving more than about $1600 maybe $1800 if you really like the looks of it. If it were all Rock River and not pieced together from different uppers and lowers I still would stay at $1800 max. Just my 10 cents worth.

 

[larryb]

Trying to guess what the value of any semi auto .223 now a days is difficult. Just came from a gun show and I was shaking my heads at what dealers and private sellers were selling any semi auto for :wacko:

I saw one buyer shell out $2800 for a used Colt H bar match target. Nothing fancy the same one I bought used last year for $900. A CAR with out any bling for $1900.00, same gun new at Cabella's with red dot sights $675.00 last year.

30 rnd no name AR mags (used steel), last year $3.00 each, today $30.00 each and no qty discounts.

.223 ammo, factory new, brass, $1.00 each, Steel, $.87 each.:huh:

It's amazing what the media has stirred up with the present gun law frenzy.

My feeling is that when the dust settles and prices get kinda back to normal some people will be walking around with some very expensive guns.

Just my $.02 worth

Larry

 

[hunter48]

Thanks everyone for the advice.
I would just like to get one in case they do get banned, hoping they don't but after november you never know what will happen. And unfortunately all the stores around here are back-ordered for months, so this is really the one I have access to. On a trade I will make out pretty well, but could get an even better cash price.... But I guess I will just have to think it over and decide how bad I want one. Thanks again.

 

[Hcim101]

I've put plenty of AR's together and maybe this is me but some things people do to their AR's tick me off. The rail is nice, but there are ones that work just as good for a lot less than a LaRue mono rail, (check yankee hill) don't get me wrong they make great stuff. And that sight is like throwing a Pizza Hut sign on a Ferrari, plus using a bipod (which if its a harris is a plus) with that sight is just funny. In my mind a bipod is to be used with a scope with at least a 6x magnification (Mark 3's in my mind are horrible, and Ive had a few)unless its for one if those iron sight competitions who shoot at 500-1000yards so you will need better glass. Trigger is good, lower is very good and well milled, RRA tends to keep good quality over long use. But, I always do trigger jobs on stock internals then sell them to make up for the price of a good two stage, something you can't do, and I never buy a gun without their stock parts. Mag pull sights are good. To answer the question it's a great setup, minus the NC star sight (I hate them from using them, and my scope cost $71 from BSA so you don't need a Leo)you bought all the parts individually it would run you around 1600-1850 but the fact that its a reputable builder that did the work does add value. But, does that weapon fit you is a better question, it would be a great close quarter (flip ups)or 500 yard tac driver (or more/less depending on skill, I used a 16" at over 600 yards more than a few times.) A AR with the right sight and ammo (that match your barrel twist rate) could put some very true rounds down range.

 

[m1key]

Additional accessorizing often just adds to the overall price and offers no real value unless those items are exactly what you were looking for. Any firearm is worth no more or less than what someone else is willing to pay for it.

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