Perfect Union banner

41 - 57 of 57 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
405 Posts
actually, in the era of the $599 AR ( Palmetto State Armory 16" M4A1 Carbine ), I really don't think there is any reason to own an SKS or a mini. Now that I own all three, I can tell you I will be getting rid of both the SKS and Mini to buy more ARs. No reason to own anything else. The AR is just an all around better gun.
LOL

After experiencing what a 15 year old military issue M16 is like in basic training, I can tell you that my reasons for owning an SKS are that it is nearly just as accurate and far more reliable despite being 52 years old.

Not to mention, your AR is not even military issue, it is a military issue knock off. Does it hold some advantages over an SKS? Yes, yes it does... But your statements "I really don't think there is any reason to own an SKS or a mini" and "no reason to own anything else" and "the AR is just an all around better gun" are completely myopic and ignore the advantages of other rifles.

I really don't understand why that mentality of "mine is the best, everything else is inferior" exists so strongly among AR guys. AK guys, mini guys, SKS guys, FAL guys, M1 guys, bolt action guys, lever action guys, and every other following of firearms owners tend to be honest about their chosen platform's shortcomings... But my AR buddies can be sitting next to me, shooting the same sized groups as my SKS, clearing their 5th jam of the day, and they still will pretend like the AR has zero shortcomings.
 

·
Erin go Braugh
Joined
·
157 Posts
Agreed with above. On another note I have had good luck with both the Mini and the SKS eating cheap ammo(bulk spam can cold war stuff) as a regular diet. Much better than the AR. I enjoy the Old military stuff that is out there and think the SKS is great and has good points as well as a few downsides, and for me it is worth the price of admission to be an owner of a few and spend money on them.
Most of the people I know that complain about them had one and it... blah, blah, blah, wine, wine, wine, they forget they bought a used gun? Imported to this country by Century Arms, etc. I remind them the could have bought something else, and often I hear, but I wanted an SKS. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Now that I've been able to put some rounds through my Norinco SKS I've been able to make some of my own comparisons to my early (.308) stainless Mini-30 Ranch.

On my initial disassembly & cleaning I found that it is likely the SKS had never been fired. I could not find a speck of carbon anywhere. The bore is bright & shiny and the crown looks mint.
The front sight was also as far right as it would go. Looking on the internet I found a couple instances of them leaving the factory that way. I bought a standard sight tool & made it work by grinding some metal off the tool so it would fit the Chicom front sight.

The SKS is more accurate than the Mini. Neither is a target rifle but the SKS surprised me. I was feeding it Wolf SP and milsurp Yugo brass ammo. Advantage SKS.

The SKS loads plenty fast with stripper clips. Since there is no mag removal step it may actually be faster than the Mini. Ruger doesn't offer 10 rd magazines for those of us in states that require them. So for me it's 5 rd mags or aftermarket 10 rounders. If I can find a 10 round aftermarket mag that actually works I'll let ya know. The 2 ProMags I bought wouldn't even fit in the rifle. Of the other 4 I bought, 1 works "OK" but I wouldn't trust my life to it. The other 3 are useless. :angry:
Ruger 5rd mags are $20+ each. 400 rounds of non steel Yugo milsurp in stripper clips is a bit over $100. Add in that my SKS with factory fixed magazine has been 100% reliable and...
Advantage SKS. A no brainer for Kalifornistan.

If my SKS firing pin breaks, I already have a spare from Murray with early style return spring. If the Ruger breaks it's pin, I can either buy a (reportedly) inferior aftermarket pin or send the whole rifle to Ruger for a replacement.:angry:
Advantage SKS

The SKS is designed to gobble up any sort of steel or other cased ammo.
Ruger says I need to use expensive commercial stuff.
Advantage SKS.

So if it came down to it which rifle do you think I'm gonna grab? The SKS is a combat rifle. The Mini is not. But I'm keeping the Mini. It actually is 100% with the 5 rd magazines and is accurate enough for social occasions. It is most definitely the second fiddle in the safe tho.
And ya never know. I may not live in Kalifornistan forever and being able to use 20rd magazines might tilt the scales just a little.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
524 Posts
Having bought a Norinco SKS with very little wear, I also bought an old ('90) Mini 14 and Mini 30 ('04) with limited use, in spring '08.

The only reasons I sold the Minis were that I did not like the thick post sights (lack of shooter skill) on these older models, and to find quick cash for my first Enfield "Jungle Carbine" in spring '09, and last May wanted handy cash for the very unlikely case a Spanish FR8 was seen at a Clarkesville TN store (yes!) on a road trip.

If it were not for the appeal of certain milsurps, I would have kept all of the Minis.
That old Mini 14 (the silver sticker said "State of KY") was the most reliable gun I've ever owned, including the bolt actions!

Even though the SKS has a stovebolt now and then (I know zero about power tools in chambers), that rifle will never leave until it wears out. Then it will be replaced.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
152 Posts
Fishslayer: I'll be glad to take the Pro Mags off your hands.

I have a few Pro Mag 30 rounders which fit perfectly, feed flawlessly and drop free when released. The 20 rounders have to be sanded down with 320 or finer sandpaper to get them to fit and work. Tapco also makes good magazines for the Mini 14 as well. I don't trust any other aftermarket magazines for the Mini 14.

The SKS is also a reliable military weapon. With stripper clips it's easy to reload since the bolt carrier has a stripper clip guide. I wouldn't try to modify it and it serves its purpose.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
The SKS is also a reliable military weapon. With stripper clips it's easy to reload since the bolt carrier has a stripper clip guide. I wouldn't try to modify it and it serves its purpose.
I have zero plans for molesting the SKS in any way. I like the rifle a lot just the way it is. At the very most I may put on a Tech aperture rear sight. These old eyes just ain't what they used to be.:(

I haven't given up on trying to make the ProMags work. But IMO they put out a pretty crappy product. How hard is it to build a box with a spring in it?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
38 Posts
IM A RANCH RIFLE kinda guy i love my ranch but i got a yugo sk i like it alot i actually just bought it to show my buddy what a hunk of crap his wasr10/63 was for the 125.00 i paid for the thing i can shoot the pants off any stamped ak. and it does man i know its kinda cheating with this barrel thats approx 5" longer. But it just would bother me so bad watching him hit everything but his target at a distance. the LOP on those romanian ak's are for a midget or a little kid (little kids) so short that if he actually shouldered the rifle it would punch him right in the mouth! GARBAGE

the sk still has a place in my gun vault BATTLE RIFLE its not a sniper but hits out to 200 m on a torso sized targets show its worth its not a modular rifle not intended for optics although a select few were actually outfitted with a telescopic sight my yugo is a battle rifle and with a handy supply of stripper clips its a pretty quick little gun. the yugos have a flip up glowing night (possible early tritium) sight that flips up. the 7.62 x 39 is a great round mucho energy and stopping power. and its legal for big game in nm

THE MINI IS AWESOME I use it for varmints and predators its my go to gun i want to start shooting competitively with it in 3 gun it is plenty accurate with a trigger job and optics only. but than again its my best buddy i practice with this gun at least 2 times a week and it listens to where i want to place the bullet its brought home deer and antelope to eat and countless yotes to skin.
 

·
ANTI anti-gun activist
Joined
·
1,287 Posts
actually, in the era of the $599 AR ( Palmetto State Armory 16" M4A1 Carbine ), I really don't think there is any reason to own an SKS or a mini. Now that I own all three, I can tell you I will be getting rid of both the SKS and Mini to buy more ARs. No reason to own anything else. The AR is just an all around better gun.
Good luck with that..
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,209 Posts
Ruger Mini

My 580 series mini-14 has an accustrut, trigger job, retorqued gas block, 1911 style recoil buffers, and a tapco stock. My best group with handloads was 1.1''. There is no more shot stringing when the barrel heats up. Very inexpensive mods and she's an moa shooter. I bought 4 20rd. mags a couple months back for $23 apiece. Given the reliability, accuracy, and overall ease in function I would go with a mini-14 all day long. Not to say the sks isnt a good rifle cause it is. The mini is just better.
You have made a dream Rifle of your Mini. I love the rifle because it just fits. I have the Mini 6.8. I do have to say that an SKS with a little love and care will shoot almost as well for less. But its just not the same (fit and finish). The ergos on the Mini exceed the SKS. If I had a choice, which I do, I would have both. So I do. I have done most of the same mods on my Mini. Worth every penny. And a few to my SKS as well.

For example, I have two Mausers a M96 and a 98. I have three Mosin Nagants. Which of the five do I shoot the most, my M39 Fin. Why because it has character and shoots so well. Sure the action isn't as smooth as the Mauser, but it clunks with the best of em. All for a low price of $29 in 1986.

So fix up your SKS, and fine tune your Mini. Shoot em as often as you can and enjoy each for what they do.
 

·
m1a1jditkr
Joined
·
8 Posts
there are aftermarket stocks for the mini 14 that have picitiny rails. and ultimak makes a hand guard with rails on it. and i have seen people bolt on rails to standard polymer stocks
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
181 Posts
Do what I did and get at least one of each. No need to restate what has been said already but my thought was to have two rifles that can shoot the two most common military rounds out there.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
34,348 Posts
I agree. The Mini 14 easily handles all but the heaviest .223/5.56, and the SKS can handle any 7.62x39. The Mini 30 firing pin can break from firing hard primer ammo made for the SKS/AK-types, and because the pin isn't a drop in part, that's a PITA. I don't have a Mini 30 and there may be pluses to the Mini 30 I'm not aware of. I do have a Mini 14 and an SKS, and think each is well suited if not ideal for its respective caliber.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,680 Posts
Damn Free ..we agree on this one !
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,680 Posts
I had a Norinco that I should have never sold ..May need to find another..s

The Mini is definitelty still in use ain't going anywhere
 

·
Arizona Gunner
Joined
·
90 Posts
Man! This is an old thread! I also have one each, Chinese SKS with Tapco M4 style stock,
detachable mags and a Picatinny cover with an Old Aimpoint on it. I bought it back in
the 80's when they were cheap. The barrel with flash hider is just legal length and I
did the trigger job on it. No bayonet. Shoots great! 3 MOA BUIS and 2-2.5 MOA with aimpoint.

I also have a 581 Mini-14 that I bought for my wife and it's got a red dot on it also.
Shoots about 2-3 MOA with the optics on it.

I also have a Windham SRC .223/5.56 AR with about 600 rounds through it.
It shoots about 2 MOA with the optics. I am not a sharpshooter!
Got lots of accessories, MOE, BUIS, Aimpoint and so far with the Mini or the AR, I haven't had one lick of problem except the Mini throws emptys 40 yards!

The SKS has untold 1,000 of rounds through it and I don't recall ever having a FTE or
FTF. That said at this point I would probably take the SKS in a SHTF scenario, with
the AR second and the Mini last. Mostly because of the experience I have shooting
the SKS. The Mini is my wife's gun.
I have 5 20 round mags for my SKS.
I have 6 20 round and 4 30's for the Mini.
I have 1 20 and 8 30 round mags for the AR
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,656 Posts
...at this point I would probably take the SKS in a SHTF scenario, with the AR second and the Mini last. Mostly because of the experience I have shooting the SKS...
I was only introduced to the SKS rifle about 4 years ago. Since that time, and several of them added to my collection, I must say these rifles are some of the most underrated firearms out there.

Given the ballistics of 7.62x39 cartridge, I am very pleased with the accuracy I get from my SKS rifles. With iron sights, I can group nicely at 50 yards; all within a 4" inch group. At 100 yards, of course, it opens up. But again, this is with iron sights.

As far as reliability, I've never experienced a FTF/FTE with my SKS rifles. They are built to run...and run they do. This is one of the obvious strengths of the platform's design.

One could make an argument against using an SKS in a SHTF scenario, based on it's "standard" firepower...because of the 10-round attached magazine. However, there are 20-round options available, as well as stock options to augment the ergos of the rifle.

That said, one thing I do like about the 10-round magazine is that there are no magazines to tote around, and nothing to get lost. It's self-contained. Moreover, for general defensive use, 10 rounds is adequate...not great, but adequate.

Bottom line, the SKS rifle is a great choice for any type of shooting that trips your trigger. I'm a huge fan of this shooting platform.
 
41 - 57 of 57 Posts
Top