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I think the main focus of the Ruger folding stock was for shooting from the hip or loosely from the shoulder. I agree there is NO cheek weld but I don't believe it was ever designed for a cheek weld.

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thank you for not insulting me. but it is not a shotgun and firing from the hip or loosely from the shoulders means no hits and waste of ammo unless maybe in a small room
 

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thank you for not insulting me. but it is not a shotgun and firing from the hip or loosely from the shoulders means no hits and waste of ammo unless maybe in a small room
I don't think anybody is taking this stock that seriously.

It is a novelty stock with some nostalgia involved, that has not been around for a long time.
 

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Major delays in shipping

I saw the FEB article too. And immediately ordered mine (2 weeks before they actually shipped in March). STILL NO STOCK in hand. all SAMSON ever say in a couple of calls and emails is "everything is fine, shipping as fast as we can" Supply chain difficulties (which, ironically they point to Ruger forwood stock blanks.

I have pretty much kissed my $279 goodbye and will unlikely EVER see my stock. I have a distinct feeling that the "good ole boy" network is hard in play and mostly dealers, schmoozes and other "Im important cause I got money" types are cutting in front of the "first ordered, first ship" line. It seems like EVERYONE and their brother from a gun store has a "A-TM review".

Perhaps stop friking giving them away to the marketers and money people, and start shipping to paying customers. I have ZERO confidence in SAMSON Mfg to actually deliver the product that they took my money.
 

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Has anyone actually received a SAMSON version in 2020?

Just wondering. I ordered mine in FEB right when the article came out. Yeah - late to the party, but I didn't think THIS late. FEBRUARY order with ZERO expected ship date. Its like a product people want, pay $279 and don't get.

I'm feeling like a pretty big sucker right about now. Should've used the money for another HYBRID instead. At least I know that is a 10-12 month wait. Here it's just nothing. Like SAMSON is hoping I will someday stop asking about my Stock or the $279 dollars I've given them. Maybe I should charge interest on my "loan". pretty frustrated and pissed off right now.

Just wondering if anyone here actually has received one of these this year? SAMSON says they are shipping in small batches. But I gotta be honest, their ordering system, and the general way they are handling this does not inspire confidence.
 

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Just wondering. I ordered mine in FEB right when the article came out. Yeah - late to the party, but I didn't think THIS late. FEBRUARY order with ZERO expected ship date. Its like a product people want, pay $279 and don't get.

I'm feeling like a pretty big sucker right about now. Should've used the money for another HYBRID instead. At least I know that is a 10-12 month wait. Here it's just nothing. Like SAMSON is hoping I will someday stop asking about my Stock or the $279 dollars I've given them. Maybe I should charge interest on my "loan". pretty frustrated and pissed off right now.

Just wondering if anyone here actually has received one of these this year? SAMSON says they are shipping in small batches. But I gotta be honest, their ordering system, and the general way they are handling this does not inspire confidence.
I'm gonna go ahead and break your heart. I ordered mine on Feb. 4 with no hope in sight. There are guys on Samson's face book page and other gun forums begging for updates that ordered their stocks on Jan. 28th. The role out date for these stocks was on the 24th of Jan, and i seriously doubt they have filled those orders. You can say bye bye to that $300 for at least the next year... Maybe.
 

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I'm gonna go ahead and break your heart. I ordered mine on Feb. 4 with no hope in sight. There are guys on Samson's face book page and other gun forums begging for updates that ordered their stocks on Jan. 28th. The role out date for these stocks was on the 24th of Jan, and i seriously doubt they have filled those orders. You can say bye bye to that $300 for at least the next year... Maybe.
Hmm....Hope they don't out to be another Hill and Mac Gun works for you folks.
 

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My refinished Samson folder. The 'before' pic and the after pics. Stripped, Stained with water based stain. Finished with raw linseed oil.
Do you do private work? Have a Choate folder from 1980 (or perhaps just a bit earlier) that would appreciate your work, as well as a current Ruger woodie that could go a bit darker. Not sure I'm talented enough...

When you get enough posts, PM me!
 

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I'm certain the Samson folder will sell well, once Samson ramps-up production. Part of Samson's products being delayed might be due to Ruger being engaged with current demand for Ruger firearms, and so mot being able to devote attention to Samson's requirements. Just a guess.
 

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So it turns out to be relatively simple to convert a Samson folding stock into a fixed stock (because my state is run by loons) with a glued in a shim that takes advantage of a factory retention pin to lock everything together solidly.



A 3/8" diameter nylon spacer 1/4" tall can have a half round sliced off and sanded to fit perfectly in the shoulder of the plunger (MA-13900). You simply fill in the milled shoulder of the plunger with a glued in placed spacer to reduce the shoulder down to cross pin slot to fix the stock once the stock is fully reassembled in the locked extended position. The steps seem wordy, but it's relatively simple.

Trim a half round the width of the slot from the 3/8" diameter x 1/4" tall nylon spacer. Sand/file the nylon spacer down until the spacer fits perfectly in the milled shoulder of the plunger.

Cut/sand/file 3/32" off the bottom of the half round spacer so that the pin has a hole to pass through. You should be able to lay the retention pin (MA15200) in the slot.

Super glue the spacer into the shoulder of the plunger as shown with the slot left for the pin at the bottom of the plunger (the spring hole end). Let the glue fully dry.

Oil the inside of the hole the plunger goes into on the stock arm plate and place the plunger spring (MA-14400) in there.

Put in the plunger in the hole upside down (so the spring is pushing it out from the beveled top that normally rests against the stock arm) while holding the back of of the plunger (the side with the drilled hole for the spring) with a pair of pliers padded with electrical tape (to avoid marring the surface of the plunger). Placing the plunger in upside down provides a gripping surface for pliers on the inside and outside lip of the spring hole.

Twist the plunger around pressing down against the spring using the pliers to make sure the spacer in the plunger shoulder isn't binding against the hole in the stock arm plate, if you haven't sanded/filled/fitted the spacer perfectly plumb -gently twisting the plunger against the hole will scrape off the excess nylon until the spacer fits perfectly. Keep doing this until the plunger moves smoothly as it did prior to installing the spacer.

<<<This is why you put the plunger in backward backwards, to not have a plunger get stuck with a spacer binding in the stock arm plate. You an inside edge of the plunger to grip with pliers and have the spring tension available to push the plunger back out of the hole so it won't get stuck. If it gets stuck -which happened to me without the benefit of putting it in upside down, you'll need a strong magnet to yank it out -yet another reason to remember to make sure to oil it and have the spring in there to provide some action to push the plunger out if need be!>>>

Once you've confirmed the plunger with the spacer fitted smoothly moves up and down in the hole, you can take the plunger out and put it back in the correct way over the spring.

Slide the stock arm to the fully open position over the plunger and make sure the flat of the plunger is aligned properly against the flat of the stock arm.

Look through the retention pin hole and you'll likely notice just a tiny amount of the nylon spacer blocking the top edge retention pin hole (~1/32"). Place a 3/32 drill bit in the retention pin hole and gently turn it with pliers to clear the pin channel of the excess nylon spacer and you'll have a clear path for the pin to go through.

Tap the retention pin in and you're all set. The stock is fixed in place by the retention pin since the plunger no longer has the ability to travel with the glued in place shim blocking the plunger from being pressed.

If you've done it perfectly there will be zero movement of the plunger when you attempt to press it down with the retention pin inserted. This is permanent short of taking the stock apart again, tapping out the pin, removing the plunger and melting/dissolving/carefully chiseling out the glued nylon spacer from the shoulder of the plunger.
 
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