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Just got this gun done on an Enfield Action.
It right now has barrel on it for my 700HE 3.25"
cartridge. Gun also would work for the 12GA From
Hell. I reamed out action like what was done one Mausers
years ago to make 12ga bolt action shotguns, only I
improved process by adding two rear bolt locking
lugs, a heavy stock and barrel to take recoil.
We are doing an 8GA FH on an Enfield.
Second picture is the Savage 210 that I have the
12GA FH in.Ed



 

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Here are some more projects of our research.
In picture, left my 28GA FH-
Our 12GA FH- My 8GA FH.Ed

 

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Ouch!!!

You have GOT to be a recoil ADDICT!!!!:eek:

Just looking at these pictures makes my shoulder hurt!!:D

Sweet looking cannons though.

Do you actually hunt with those things?
 

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We hunt ok with them. I just so busy testing,
shooting, wildcatting I don't have time to hunt
much.Wildcatting is the fulltime hobby.Ed
 

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Got an 8ga barrel blank being made now,
will be here end of the week.Found this
info on plastic 8ga kiln gun loads, they
load a frangible 710gr slug at 2300-
for 8300ft lbs, load 1275gr hard slug to
1700, 8100 ft lbs. We will outdo those easy
with our non-shotgun powder loads, in
a heavy barrel. We setup an Enfield for 8ga.
In the 87 long barreled gun we will be testing
Breneke slugs. Guys are reporting good accuracy
in smooth and rifled barrels. The pictured barrel
on 87 is smooth and we will see how the
slugs in pic stand some speed.Ed

 

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Just so you guys know,
I was lucky enough to make it over to Tailgunner's place to check out his collection of ammunition. Quite amazing. But to stay on this subject.......I got to see that "12ga. from hell" round...........and.........

You do not yet understand.
 

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Tested 35" smooth barrel in 1887. Got couple
1 oz foster slugs over 2400, with 110gr
of 4227. 3" plastic case, regular primers.
This is a heavy barrel for that type of load,
don't do this in your 12ga skinny barrels.
The 28GA FH cases on the way.Chambering
bolt gun for it now.. Ed
 

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In the 87 long smooth barrel got
1 oz Brenneke to 2400 with 110gr
of 4227, You could use 4759 and
VV110 also at lesser amounts.
Barrel is cylinder bore size.
Brenneke slugs need no wads as the
locked on wad works good.Ed
And going heavier in 87 got 600 grain
Dixie over 2000, got a Buckhammer slug
I took out of factory load over 1900.
Buckhammer and locked on wad is 630
gr. Tested in 3" plastic cases.

The firing pin on the 87 didn't protude out
like I like them to as it comes from factory,
so I removed .015 from the hammer stop.
It fires big and small primers perfect.Ed
 

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5595 ft/lbs on the one ounce slug. What are you going to hunt with this? Steam Locomotive? :lol:

Amazing what you can come up with when left to your own devices. See kids ? Idle hands are the devil's tools!!:lol:
 

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DV
It's legal for those Kevlar wrapped deer down in your neck of the woods, and you wouldn't have many worries about them making it over the fence onto posted property either.
Besides, think of the fun you could have letting the "manly men" at the gravel pit shoot it (take your video camera, so we can all see their reactions).
 

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10GA FH..a NEF 10ga, medium to heavy wt smooth barrel.
28" long, gun weighted to 14lbs. Factory FED 765gr loads
are 1300 fps. 200 gr of first powder tested is 7383 surplus
and the regular shotgun primers got 765 gr to 1600,
for 4300 ft lbs. Case won't hold anymore 7383.
Federal factory hollowbase slug is .025" smaller than
10ga bore. I bumped it up to the .775" size, by expanding
hollow base. With 7383 that gave another 150 fps.Fast starting
shotgun powders expand base better than much slower 7383.
The Federal factory load has 120gr of wads/seals about 1.4"
long. Better to replace with much more slower powder,
getting better velocity, still at low shotgun pressures.
We will test 4227 with the same slug , and saboted slug
of some design. We roll crimped with crimper in drill press.
Case expansion with 7383 very little(.006") like
the factory loads. 3.5" plastic.Used one .050 wad.Ed
 

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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
In 10GA NEF 110gr 4227 got 765gr slug
to 1800, ejected ok. If it was a really
heavy barrel it could do more.Using the
7383 surplus at 150 gr, don't even have
to resize to fire 3 times. The 28GA FH
done and testing in next couple weeks.Ed
 

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Fired 28GA FH-- Cases extract easy.--It is
in bolt action Enfield. With 550gr jkt slug,
full load 150 gr of WC-860, got 1900 fps.
This will be slowest load and powder.
In picture is 3.25" brass 28ga cases, regular
28ga plastic case, jkt slugs, a 458Win
for comparison.Regular cases work also.Ed

 

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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
28ga cases are made by Rocky Mtn Cartridge,
Barrel is rifled with 4 grooves, 1-22 twist.
You could do one on Savage 210.Another
shotgun bolt action that would handle it
with little work, heavy barrel, is the
395-495-595-695 bolt action Mossberg.
Just to show that 28GA FH isn't puny, here is
picture of it next to a 505 Gibbs.Ed

 

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Keep on going Ed. I want to see where the 28 GA FH ends up. You may have an interested customer later on............:)
 

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I like the Savage 210 so I'm putting
a 700 barrel on one and chambering for
my 700H 3.25 case. Working on it now.
It is a straight belted case, .700 cal.
Should get the same energy levels as
the 12GA From Hell case in same action.
In pic is 700H case in the action.
There is guy building a 600 Nitro
in 210 also. Ed

 
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