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Here is an auction that I found a while ago,and I've been researching without much success. What do you guys think? Do you think maybe the seller was pulling a prank? OR,could such a thing exist? I'm mystified by the darn thing!!
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Quadfan,
If the kit is really 19th century, you've got to remember that people actually believed in those things back then. If you were sick, medicine was almost primitive by todays standards. The supernatural was what brought on most illnesses, and you've got to also remember that was when Bram Stoker first wrote Dracula.

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It looks like a scam to me. If it is worth over $21,00 like he says why is his reserve less than $3500 also since when did the legend say that you could kill a vampire with a silver bullet. The guy also only has a feedback rating of 1 and the only bidder has no rating, looks phony to me. There is no way I would send him any large amount of cash.
 
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http://www.surnateum.org/surnateum/collect...gie/rhesus3.htm
http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/cork/99ag...agm/img/7b.html
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/97/oct/103097n1.htm
http://www.e-artifacts.com/view.asp?ItemID=22101

If its a fraud, its a well established one, as there are several other kits out there. My step mother runs a used furniture/antique shop, and next time I see her I'll see if she has a copy of the book mentioned.

As for the price, remember that you have to find the right buyer to get that, and that can be tough to do. My step mother had two Japanese Samurai boxes, basically a large wooden box that held all of the Samurai's gear. They had several hidden drawers, drawers that had to be opened in a certain order, and were really quite interesting. They appraised at $9,000 each, but there isn't much of a demand for samurai boxes in rural Indiana. She priced them at $3,000 and sold them off.
 

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Yes, there were "vampire killing kits", ranging from basic to all the bells and whistles. Whether this particular one is authentic and worth the asking price I have no idea. Guns & Ammo actually did a review on one such kit about 20-25yr ago. It was more basic than the listed kit, not having any of the chemistry set. If you feel as though you need one and are reasonably handy and resourceful, you could simply make your own.
As to the efficacy of silver bullets on vampires, remember the movies aren't exactly the end-all of historical accuracy. Many cultures/regions did not draw any sort of distinction between vampires and werewolves (or other "were-beasts"), considering them all satanic/demonic entities. There are actually quite a few accepted methods for disposing of a vampire, depending on the region from which the vampire originates. These range from burial face-down at a crossroads to silver coins in the mouth to decapitation and re-burial with the head at the feet. Just how one determines the regional origin of an attacking vampire (and, therefore, the appropriate method of dispatch) is unclear.
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Thanks for all the insights to this little mystery of mine. It was somthing that caught my eye,and being somewhat of a fan of bizzare items,I was intrigued by it. If it IS authentic,it would make an interesting conversation piece indeed!

I tend to agree with SCCogswell in his assessment of the item.
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Now, I ain't going to go spreading untruths or falsehoods---nor am I going to attempt to tell people what to believe or what not to believe---but as Shakespeare once said:


"There are more things between heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in thy philosophies."

Down here on the Attoyac you can get to Texas or Louisiana equally quick. We are on the northeastern border of the Big Thicket (a primordial - and interesting - place you might want to locate on your browser to verify this post) and are by all accounts and description backwoods river rat ******** who live by our own rules. There's a lot of old boys back in high spots in the woods with names like Boudreau, Thibideaux, Dugas, Theaboult---Cajuns. Further back in the woods than them there are some old time Redbones, but you don't call em that no. You can get to Nawleans in a day or you can get to Houston in a day, but I don't know why anybody'd go to Houston no more.

Well, there's reasons that I actually do carry a little boot pistol loaded with black powder and a silver .44 ball. I cast many of them bullets for myself and friends out of old Mexican pesos. There's a priest down off Palo Gaucho bayou that blesses them, and there's a woman named Rissie Harper that will cure them in an oil she makes. I don't carry this little smoke stick for protection from democrats. I got a 1911 ACP for that. I carry my little cap & ball .44 loaded with silver on account of what I've seen before and what other people have seen before and on account of what the sheriff's department has investigated down here---but never solved.

So don't yawl go jumping to no conclusions but the validity of something you ain't got quite all the facts on. I got all the items contained in that little box down at the fishcamp where I stay. And I keep mine in a little box like it, but not as fancy. My box was a Mardi Gras present that originally contained three bottles of French wine. Its old now cause that was a long time ago. The old boy that gave me that box drowned when his crew boat went down off Grand Isle.

If yawl ever have need of silver bullets---an I hope you don't---send me the mould an I'll cast 'em, have 'em blessed ad cured and send 'em back along with the mould at no charge. An they work jist as good on ex-wives as they do on 'em loup garous. But I best say nothin but them no.
 

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Well now, ain't this just a fine and dandy discussion going on here? It reminds me of my hunting buddies . . . you know, the guys that you talk to in June and July and plan a hunting trip in September to go to Colorado? The ones that all say yeah, I'll be ready to go? The same ones that when September rolls around all say well, I have to be at work, go to the doctor, take my dog to the vet, or fill in your favorite excuse here?

Like my hunting buddies, as long as people are sitting fat, dumb and happy in air conditioning in the day light, they are quick to say they will go hunting or that there is no need for vampire killing kits because there are no vampires. But when September comes or when they are in the dark, alone and in unfamiliar territory, if they have any brians at all, something way down in the bottom of their toes tells them that they are in serious trouble.

I was born in Gulfport, Mississippi and grew up between there and New Orleans. I knew many of the old cajun people and attended the little Catholic churches way out in the boonies. I came up on the old tales of the old people who lived in the swamps and made their living out there or on shrimp boats during shrimping season. My uncle, Bud Bouche, lived on Honey Island on the Pearl River. All the old people believe in voodoo, vampires and loup garous. I personally know nothing of vampires but I have personally witnessed voodoo ceremonies that defy logic and reason. I've seen things happen that are impossible and it sacred the crap out of me. I quit dating the absolute most bueatiful girl in the world because of it. Her mother was a voodoo woman. She was real and she had unreal power.

Now all of you boys who are sitting here in front of this modern marvel of communication and information are all saying well he's full of it. But it's only July and you are sitting fat, dumb and happy in air conditioning in the daylight, in your own home, in known territory. If you'll come with me to Delisle, Mississippi on the lower Pearl River, back to Honey Island Swamp, at night, I'll bet you won't be so quick to say that. In fact, I'll bet your pucker factor will be about a 10.

And when we go up river a ways to a mark and get out of the Pirogue and are stoped by large cajun or black men and blind folded and lead to a gathering in the swamp and only then is the blind fold removed and you see the fire and the voodoo woman begining her ritual and you witness what I've witnessed and you say to yourself "this can't be happening; that is impossible," THEN you tell me I'm full of it. Until then, you are just saying you'll go hunting in Colorado but it's only July and you have time to make excuses between now and September.

When I go down there, I go with my knife blade dipped and dried in garlic juice. I go with my 44 loaded with silver bullets purchased from a place where you can buy griss-griss bags and silver bullets and sacred items and chants to protect against loup garous. You buy these things from an old woman that has little blue bottles hanging in all of the trees and bushes in her yard. All her neighbors are afraid of her and so am I. I go knowing that it is real and that people have gone in there and not come out. And others have gone in and come out only to drop dead shortly thereafter. And I've seen bodies carried in that walked out. And I've seen the most absolute evil power on the planet that'll scare the crap out of any sane Christain man that witnesses it. And it'll do the same to you too. Believe it.

The people of Europe and those that came to America came with their beliefs in similar powers of vampires and loup garous or wolf garou (French for Werewolf). I don't know anything about them but I'm sure not going to say it isn't true. I do know the old cajuns, those that speak that strange bastardized French language, believe in them. If they say it's true, I am not about to say it isn't. I cannot truly say it is true but neither can I say that it is not. But I do know where you can buy vampire and loup garoux killing kits but there isn't much you can do about voodoo once a "Chanting Woman" has some of your hair and casts her spell. You can go to another voodoo woman but likely as soon as she discovers that you're being hexed, she will not have anything to do with you. You've all heard the saying "you can run but you can't hide." If it ever had application, it dang sure applies to having a voodoo spell put on you.

Some people say that if you truly believe in God and can find one of the old Cathloic Churches that still have one of the old priest there, he may be able to save you but there are not many of those around anymore. Modern day people just don't think they need them anymore. And truly, you don't unless you are the one with the spell on you. If you are, then it's September and it's about to snow all over you whether you are ready to hunt or not.

Like the killing kit says, if you are going to certain sections of the country, you might want to go prepared just in case that feeling down in the bottom of your toes says to you "OH SCHMITT!"
 

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Now ya'll are probably thinkin that Dub and BP are pullin yer leg. They are not... completely. Here's my view, speakin as a true Christian, a man with an engineering background, and as a native of the region.

The swamps of the Gulf Coast are incredibly strange and eerie places. I have seen grown, tough, hard-fisted men break down after guardin pipeline job sites in these swamps. I know Indians that avoid areas in the swamp as if sure death awaited them there. I have several very good friends and relatives who have seen strange things there, and I have heard about the legends that haunt these places all my life. I have been in places that I couldn't run fast enough to leave. If you doubt me, try it. But don't go alone or without a local to help you.

First, Loup Garous (or Werewolves): there is undeniable evidence that "Bigfoot" exists in the Southern swamps. I'm not going to detail the evidence - it won't convince the skeptic anyway. But, my friends who saw them before Bigfoot was popular, always claimed that they had seen a "werewolf". (I laughed, at the time, too). I now have better evidence of their existence, but I will not give it here... sorry. I think that "Bigfoot" is the cause of the Loup Garou myths. I know that explaining one myth with another will not satisfy you, but to get satisfaction you must come down here and see for yourself. It won't take long...

VooDoo: Again, I am a Christian, and I avoid subjects like this like the plague. However, as a Christian I recognize the existence of the demonic and the occult, and I consider it foolish to dismiss it. I have seen odd things from 'witch doctors' in Mexico. I can attest to the fact that VooDoo and its Mexican cousin, Santaria, are still practiced in the South and in Texas.

Vampires: I have no idea.

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Dub,BP,Venator- Thanks for your very interesting stories! I myself am the son of a Lutheran Minister,and have questioned my father on subjects like these many times throughout my life. He believed very much in EVIL,and it's manifestations here on earth. He always said,if you believe in God,you must believe in the devil,because God says there is a devil! He also tells us about demons and some of the shapes they take while on earth. Also,it has been proved time and time again that myths are based more often than not on FACT!! I can recite many recent examples of this from Sodom&Gomhora,to the city of Troy,to animals they thought were extinct for millions of years,to ones they never knew existed! I think our ancetors were not as crazy as modern people would like to assert, but alot of their knowledge has been lost.
Are there Vampires,Werewolfs,Bigfoots?? WHY NOT!! History is filled with accounts of them, and they can't ALL be wrong!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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Quadfan, those are good insights. Your father is a wise man.

But, what we're suggestin here is not that the history books are filled with some of these things... but that the swamps of the South are filled with 'em. If you are in the right place on the wrong night, all doubt will be eliminated from your mind... forever... I promise you...
 

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Well, Quadfan, I could tell you a couple or three that would raise the hair on your neck that happened to me personally when me when Venator and I were wandering around down in Mexico over 30 years ago. Maybe sometimes when things are dull I'll tell you about them. Your father is right, and you are also right to keep an open mind on the issue. Those who adamantly refuse to at least admit the possibility of such things only prove their sad lack of an education which only a life of travel and curiosity can provide.
 

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I met guys in the Marines from the bayou's of Louisianna,Mississippi,and East Texas,and they all had similar stories of things that went on deep in the woods. And they would'nt talk about it with just anyone,you had to be close to them before they'd really tell you much. It's fasinating to think such places and things are real....at least to me. People in those regions are alot more in tune with nature and their surroundings in a spiritual sort of way. I think most of us are lost on such things,and our ideas on evil have been changed by TV and movies.

So are we,the ignorant masses, better off, is ignorance really "BLISS"?......I think NOT!
 
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