Bought a new "Fobus" (from China. Yes, holster marked "Forbus" and the package is too) for $5 off e-bay. I thought it would be junk and may be useful to give to idiots who always borrow stuff, tear it up and then return it, but was pretty well surprised (obviously there IS a first time for everything!) at the quality and comfort, ease of use and it hasn't broken or melted yet. Possibly these are like the "Leopold" scopes that came out of China (that broke right off and people were returning to Leopold to get fixed, and told if they wanted a REAL Leopold it cost more than $29.95 and were NOT made in China!) but so far I got to say I am impressed with it. Same with the mag pouches, can not bitch (see I told you there was a first time for everything) and the price was right. Whether these are "real" Fobus holsters and mag pouches or not, they work great and I am happy.