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Old 03-31-2012, 04:55   #1
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B Square scope rail

Any reviews, comments, concerns on this sight through weaver rail for the Mini-14 RR? Been wanting to get away from the integral scope mounts that Ruger is so fond of because of the limitations it places on the rifle. Such as no sight through, most reflex sights are geared for weaver or picatiny rails, etc.

I found this one at Midway called the B Square, which allows you to still use the iron sights while the scope or reflex sight is still mounted, and actually fits right into what I am looking for. But I can't find any info or reviews on the product.

B Square

Any info would be great.
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Nutn Fancy briefly talks about a rail similar to that in one of his Mini 14 videos, I think that was a Weigand rail (no sight through) and if I remember correctly he wasn't all that thrilled with it, but I could be wrong.

But I haven't seen anything specific to the B-Square Mini mount, although I know a few guys who have used their mounts on M-14s and seem to like tem.
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I have never heard anything good about the B-Square/B-Square style mounts for the Minis. This style in particulare I have heard can bounce brass back into the chamber or at least into the bolt and cause jams.

The only I have seen is one that comes over the side of the receiver, but the one I saw, the guy drilled and tapped the receiver to mount it.
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Accuracy Systems shows one mounted on a mini in the advertising pictures for the Williams Match sight, but they don't offer any info on the rail itself.

Borrowed picture link from their site.



Since my RR doesn't have the ejector pin, and instead uses the bolt stop as the ejector, the shell doesn't really eject upward so much as outward, so I can't really see it bouncing off the rail. Could be wrong though.

Maybe I'll drop ASI a line and see if they've used it, and what they think.

Thanks for the comments so far.
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Originally Posted by bobgengeskahn View Post
I have never heard anything good about the B-Square/B-Square style mounts for the Minis. This style in particulare I have heard can bounce brass back into the chamber or at least into the bolt and cause jams.

The only I have seen is one that comes over the side of the receiver, but the one I saw, the guy drilled and tapped the receiver to mount it.
Yes, I should have specified that, the B-Square M-14 mounts that I have seen used were side mounts (I personally have an ARMS on my M-14), not top mounts.
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I have had a B Square on my 186xxx Mini for years. Beware there are B Square clones out there that are junk. Mounting a "real" B Square properly and using blue loctite on the locking allens will result in a tight fit that will not move. I originaly had the button ejector bolt on this standard mini but it was serviced by Ruger and the bolt and bolt stop assembly were replaced with the new ranch style. This actually stopped the brass from bouncing off the underside of the mount. When I remove and remount the scope mount I will use a pair of channel lock pliers. It just makes it a little tighter. I have an adjustable cheek rest so there is no issue getting a good cheek weld. A true original B Square mount usually goes for about $70.00. In my experience money well spent. YMMV...................Joe

Below on the top of the pic is my 186xxx mini. As you can tell "I like Mini 14's"



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The one at Midway USA is stamped B-Square right on the side in their picture. I would hope it's not an imitation.

I'll wait for more reviews before I make my decision though.

Thanks for the input.
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I looked at your link to Midway. You obviously have a Ranch Mini. The B Square mount I was reffering to is a side mount which will work on your Mini if you so choose. My Mini is a standard and scope options are limited. B Square makes good solid products and are frequently copied.................Joe
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Hmmm, after looking at yours, and the only picture on the B-Square site, the one at midway looks vastly different. Might have to contact them direct to make sure it's actually one of their mounts.

I think I actually like the looks of the side mount one better.
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Here is a link to a real B square mount. Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Their pic is detailed pretty good.......................Joe

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Looks nice. How does it rezero after removing for cleaning?

Not sure I like the high profile though after viewing the bigger pic. I'll wait and see what B-Square says about the one at Midway USA. I think the lower profile might fit my needs better, regardless of how cool the side mount looks.
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Cleaning with mount

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I forgot to mention that since I have a ranch bolt I can now remove and replace my bolt without removing the scope mount. It is not easy. I actually have to depress the bolt stop release button in order to reinstall the bolt. Just an FYI.....................Joe
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Thanks for the info. I usually have to do the same thing even with no mount. Not that I HAVE to, but it does make it easier to get the bolt back in.
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I have a B-Square on my 182 mini, for over 20-years,I like them. Its the side mount.Guns54
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I have one on a 182 series since 97' it rezero's to within an inch or so @ 100yds on my Stock mini (it's hard to see a difference on a 4" gun)
It locks to the supplied side plate. No issues ever with ejection of spent brass, no issues with removing the bolt other than the usual jiggle you go through, it is short and so itlimits scope position a bit but works great with the Leupold Mark AR 1.5 to 5X I use.

Hope this helps if you haven't already made a choice.
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B-Square Weaver-Style Scope Base with Rings Ruger Mini-14 Gloss
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I have one of the B-Square clones. It took some work but I finally got it tight. With some lock tight it's still holding. Next time I would get the B-Square. It's only a few dollars more. kwg
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Weaver makes some rings for the mini that are sight under. I went with those for now, since I found a pair for $15 at a gun show. I'll get the BSquare when I can afford a good combat sight.

Thanks for all the input everyone.
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