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Old 11-26-2011, 10:20   #1
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This Falls Blacktail Bucks both Shot with Contender Carbines

Here are a couple of Blacktail bucks we shot this fall using T/C Contender carbines.

First was shot Oct 5/11 with a 22" Custom Shop T/C Contender in 45-70 loaded with 325gr Hornady FTX @ 1850fps distance was appr 35 yards.



Second was shot Nov 11/11 with a 21" factory tapered 308Bellm was a 30-30 that I had Mike Bellm rechamber to his wildcat my hunting load = 150gr Rem Core Lok's @ 2620fps distance was appr 90 yards.

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Nice deer Camp Cook .Thanks for posting.
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Old 11-28-2011, 20:11   #3
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Just got the second buck back from the butcher skinned with legs removed at the knee and head removed it weighed 124lbs hanging the first buck weighed 112lbs hanging.

Not a bad size for pure breed coastal blacktail deer.
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Well Cook I did not get him with a contender but he will do.
Thanksgiving morning at 7:00a.m. 100gr.257Roberts.
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WOW he's a beauty...

In December we scored one more slightly smaller medium size 2X2 coastal blacktail used a 21" factory tapered 375JDJ this barrel was a 375 Win when I bought the Contender carbine I load it with 260gr Accubonds @ 2280fps - 2300fps.

It is by far my favorite Contender carbine combo I have also shot a 6' black bear @ 90 yards with this same combo dropped it instantly.
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Thanks for posting Camp cook. Glad that you got another blacktail . Congrats on the 6' Bear. Is your carbine a G2 in stainless steel ?

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I have three gen 1 s/s Contender frames and one s/s G2 Contender frame you can see in the two pics posted that the frames are Gen 1.

My Contender carbine barrels are =

1) 17 Rem blued 21" factory taper
2) 22LR s/s 16.5" factory taper
3) 223 s/s 21" factory taper
4) 6.8SPC s/s 23" bull 6.8SPC
5) 308Bellm s/s 21" factory taper
6) 375JDJ s/s 21" factory taper
7) 10mm blued 18" factory taper
8) 410 Ven Rib s/s 21" factory taper
9) 45 Colt s/s 14" bull
10) 45-70 s/s 22" bull
11) 50 cal mag s/s 24" Gonic muzzle loader
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I like that Laminated stock Cook that is cool.
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Old 01-18-2012, 16:02   #9
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Here is the pic of the last buck that I mentioned above the carbine is chambered in 375JDJ.

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Another nice buck and Contender Carbine Camp Cook. Thanks for posting. Man ,you sure have some nice Contender Carbine's .
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nice animals. well done.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:26   #12
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Thank you...
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Nice collection and Deer

I have admired your collection as well camp cook. So I set out to make my own collection these past few months. Mine are all Blued.
21" 22 LR Match t/c factory
22" 25-20 t/c custom shop
16.5" 6.5 JDJ ssk
15.75" Van Horn 375-444 (375 JDJ)
23" 375 JDJ t/c factory
22" t/c custom shop 45-70
My wants are the carbine 410 and a carbine 10mm as I shoot and have plenty of 10mm brass, bullets on hand from my pistol.
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Thats a very nice start especially the short 375JDJ I had been thinking about scoring a short 375JDJ as well but finally decided what my next move was going to be.

I haqve been racking my brain but really couldn't figure out another barrel for my Contender collection so I decided to step up a bit in performance and just yesterday I purchased a stainless steel 26" fluted barrel T/C Prohunter in 7mm mag.

I am not necessarily interested in the 7mm mag plan is to sell this barrel and purchase either a 375H&H non-fluted Encore barrel have it shortened to 21" or a 375JDJ have it sent to Mike Bellm he says he can rechamber it to 376 Styer for me I would have him shorten the barrel to 20" - 21" as well.

Basically my goal for several years now has been a mid-velocity thumper that I would load with either the Barnes 250gr TTSX @ 2650fps or 300gr Gamekings/A-Frames/Partitions @ tops 2450fps no plans on pushing the velocities I have my Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM that I do that with.

I'm thinking the 375H&H would be the easier way to go.

I bought the 7mm mag because it was over $110.00 cheaper than any other Encore/Prohunter I have found up here in Canada.

Plan is to also contact GunStocksInc.com and purchase a black/gray laminate stock set and if I were to buy another barrel it would be in 30-06 once again shortened to 20" - 21".
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Nice

Very cool camp cook sounds like a good move. I do like your stocks on the tc and have book marked the makers. The stocks will come in the future.

Made me laugh you do like those 21" barrels. I'm loading for my new 45-70 t/c custom shop 22" barrel. I was wondering if you seat the bullet out further than the crimp groove? When I was checking the bullet fit of the Hornady ftx 325 I could stretch it out alot further to get closer to the riflings. I could bring it out to 2.827 touching. Figured I would bring it back to around 2.800 or slightly less. I see you like the H322 I'll give that a try.

Your Black tail got me interested in trying my hand at deer hunting. I will be checking into going to Kodiak to give it a go. I live close to Anchorage so I may research taking my SeaSport out to the Islands around Whittier. Little tougher in the fall as Prince William Sound has some nasty storms out there.
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I find that H322 is the best powder that I have ever used in the 45-70's it is not heat/cold sensitive either like so many other powders and is crazy accurate.

I do not trim my brass shorter when loading the 325gr FTX when I am loading them in the Contender like you would need to do if you load for a Marlin 1895 and I seat to the crimp groove and do not worry about overall length or how close to the rifling I am.

I have noticed over the years that seating further out actually reduces velocities.

Just recently I have had this experience again when I was loading for my new 23" 6.8spc Contender barrel I was trying to find a load with 110gr TTSX seated it out to 2.4" found I had a reduced velocity groups were minute of angle but hit the target @ 200 yards way lower than it should have with the 100 yard zero I was shooting.

I tried some 95gr TTSX loaded to 2.29" to fit my AR mags velocities were excellent and acuracy was fantastic giving me 1/2" 100 yard 3 shot groups.

I like 20" - 21" on my rifles except my Rem 700 LSS in 300RUM that is 26" short barrels work so nice in the country I hunt/work in my 375RUM also has a 21" barrel.

Kodiak Island those should be Sitka blacktail small but as far as I am concerned the best eating deer of them all I haven't been to Kodiak but hunted the Queen Charloote Islands just south of you many times over the years been a while since I have been there though.

I understand the storms I have been stuck on ferry's between Prince Rupert and the Charlottes in some of the worst weather that they will still travel in I can handle rough wether but that was more than I could take had to let loose a couple times.
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Thanks for the info camp. I loaded up some hornady 325 ftx to the groove. Used the H322 with weights listed I have found in manuals and internet data.
I know the feelings of having to let it go had it happen a time or 2 myself.
I've hunted mule deer in Wyo when I was a kid live most of my adult life here in Alaska. I hope to take a grizz someday in the future. I put in for the drawing for a kodiak brown bear permit maybe someday I'll get lucky.
I finally laid out the contenders and took a photo it's a work in progress
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45-70 T/C custom shop 22" W/ Burris 2-7X35
375 jdj T/C 23" W/Burris 2-7X35
375-444 van horn custom 15 1/2" W/Burris
6.5 jdj 16.5 ssk custom shop W/Burris timberline 3-9X32
25-20 T/C custom shop 23" W/Simmons 4x32 8 point
22 lr T/C 21" W/Simmons 22 mag 4x32
410 T/C 10"
221 fireball 10"T/C octagon W/banner 2.5 phantom
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:39   #18
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Looking very good...

This is a pic I took 3 years ago = not all of my Contenders but only pic like it I have.

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21" factory tapered 223 Rem
21" factory tapered 375 Win rechambered to 375JDJ
22" Fox Ridge Outfitters' Custom Shop bull 45-70
16.5" Fox Ridge Outfitter's Custom Shop 22LR Match Chamber
18" Fox Ridge Outfitters Custom Shop 10mm
21" factory tapered 30-30 rechambered to 308Bellm (308WinX444)



I was at the gun club yesterday afternoon had my 23" 6.8SPC & 21" 375JDJ Contenders and my Shooting Chrony with me I'm starting to think that I really don't need anything more than those two barrels and their loads (good thing it has nothing to do with need) both shoot better than MOA.

I would not hesitate if conditions were right to take deer size game out to 300 -350 yards and coyotes out to 450 yards with the 6.8 and big game up to moose out to 300 yards with the 375JDJ.

6.8SPC = 95gr Barnes TTSX @ 2960fps

375JDJ = 260gr Accubonds @ 2300fps

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Nice blacktails, I also am from prue bred coastal blacktail country, Mendocino County California. Am now living in another blacktail county, Lane County, Oregon, heavier deer here, my last big forkie put 104 lbs of cut and wrapped venison in the freezer.

got this trail cam pic last nov, this guy is still eluding me...
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On my way home from the gun club yesterday I headed up a logging road that goes around the backside of the mtn that I hunt blacktail on spotted two young bucks one had 4" - 5" spikes the other was a 2X3 I snuck up to within 8 - 10 yards of them.

I watched them for about 10 minutes they knew I was there but didn't care the 2X3 even started attacking a hemlock sapling with his antlers.

Had my Contender in 6.8spc loaded with the 95gr TTSX loads just couldn't bring myself to shoot either of the little guys.

I'm hoping to find their dad tomorrow morning
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On my way home from the gun club yesterday I headed up a logging road that goes around the backside of the mtn that I hunt blacktail on spotted two young bucks one had 4" - 5" spikes the other was a 2X3 I snuck up to within 8 - 10 yards of them.

I watched them for about 10 minutes they knew I was there but didn't care the 2X3 even started attacking a hemlock sapling with his antlers.

Had my Contender in 6.8spc loaded with the 95gr TTSX loads just couldn't bring myself to shoot either of the little guys.

I'm hoping to find their dad tomorrow morning
Yeah, hes around somewhere, and so is grandpa, but the older they get the more they prefer the night to move about ,more than half vampire!
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Cam I remember reading a few years back JD Jones said if he had to calibers he would want his 6.5 jdj and his 375 jdj. I'm looking forward to developing loads for both of those and the 45-70. I just purchased a 308 Bellm 21" stainless the price was right.
Great pic with the trail camera Elk slayer I always enjoy catching game on camera. couple years ago I caught a black bear on film.
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I so understand the night movements during the warm/clear weather but Friday night it finally started raining it rained all day Saturday and last night now it is not just raining it is windy.

I find the big guys stay out longer and move around more during the day when it is raining but when it gets like it is right now they hunker down in the thickest stuff and wait the storm out but as soon as the wind is over and the rain slows down to a drizel they will start moving again and then the rut is almost here oh yeah it is going to start getting good soon.

I've never used a trailcam would like to start doing so but then if I catch a huge buck in a pic I know I will work until I find it or go crazy trying.

I took my 5 1/2 year old up the mtn this morning right away we spotted the two bucks I saw Friday standing on a little knoll 50 yards away they were about 300 yards away from where I saw them Friday.

We stopped I told my guy that they were the same deer he said which one is the bigger one I told him the one on the right was the 2X3 he said you have to shoot our first deer of the year dad we can't let it get away.

So who am I to disappoint him = I dug out the 6.8SPC Contender carbine loaded one of the 2960fps 95gr TTSX deciding where to shoot it was easy I needed it to drop on the spot due to having a Vasectomy operation just 4 days ago = I'm in no shape to drag a deer up a hill right now so I shot it high in the neck resulting in a DRT.

Getting it cleaned and into the back of the truck wasn't all that hard I backed the truck into a cross ditch so only had to drag it about 20 yards and pull it up about 2 1/2'.

So now I have it skinned out and loaded back into the truck heading to the butcher in a few minutes the freezer will not be empty any longer and the buck was actually bigger than I thought it was.

One last comment this is probably the very first deer of any kind that was shot with a Contender carbine in 6.8SPC here in Canada.
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These will drive ya nuts

I know what you mean about going crazy trying to get the gritter you've caught on a trail cam, notice my avatar? I caught him last july and have been going nuts trying to catch up with him again, here a composite pic of him witha measurng stick I was able get stuck in the ground near the apple tree this guy hangs around, he about to step up onto the little ridge the stick is stuck in, lower ribbon is 36 inches from the ground.



I get some really good pic, as you can see form those last two, but this year I got a stunner, on one camera I got all of these!

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The rest of them

Did'nt think I could post all of there pics in one post, so heres the rest.



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