Some interesting stuff for the prep person

markw76 · 10-30-2009, 22:25

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While on the subject of governmental interference, I should mention that we get the crud now for kerosene. When the fed burrorats insisted on low sulfur diesel for 18 wheelers, the govt workers forgot they cannot regulate nature or the market place. It's not like some bureaucrat can turn off the sulfur content of North Slope oil, nor is it likely that it would go unused because of the high sulfur content. So the market switched products to match the whims of the politically correct bureaucrats. Now, diesel engines get the sweet, light low-sulfur diesel (and they could not care less), while we get to burn high sulfur kerosene in our homes. And it's not just kerosene. Home heating fuel is now high sulfur crud. So instead of 18 wheelers belching sulfur dioxide, now it is emitted by every home in America that heats with oil. The amount of "oil" consumed remains the same, the amount of sulfur dioxide emitted remains the same, but enviro wacko's can marvel at how they changed things and "reduced emissions" when in fact the net effect is zero. Marvelous.

Gobs of off-grid heating and lighting (kerosene fueled) information.
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magnomark · 10-31-2009, 10:24

heres a hint-that high sulfer home heating fuel-is the same stuff as the old "off road "diesel for farmers and logging equipment.And another thing -it still burns well in on road diesels in a pinch,ask any rancher!

Crawford · 10-31-2009, 15:33

Some thing not mentioned very often is that when they forced the switch to low sulfur diesel they caused thousands of diesel engines that had not been designed for it to be rebuilt. Most of the gaskets and seals used in diesels up until that time had been designed to operate in the high sulfur environment. When they took the sulfur out, the seals shrunk, started leaking and the engines started blowing. If I remember correctly, they gave enough notice for most of the over the road truck manufacturers but that still left and awful lot of agricultural equipment, light construction equipment and marine engines out to dry. Thank you again Congress, you are so good at looking out for the average citizen. The scatological implications of you work are just overwhelming.

markw76 · 10-31-2009, 16:43

At least the transition to unleaded gasoline was done over a longer period of time, even though some engines still needed hardened valve seats to remain in use.

Ash · 11-03-2009, 11:42

Low sulfer diesel fuel is for one thing only. To allow the aftertreatment systems to work correctly. With the previous fuel, aftertreatment systems would foul much sooner (depending on actual sulfer ppm of the current fuel batch, which could vary by quite a bit). As far as I know, when the switch occurred it pertained to on-highway diesel engines only. The switch will/is being made to also include off-highway applications in the near future. (2011 I believe??)

Cheers.

10-31-2009, 10:24	#2
magnomark Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oragun-still clinging to my religion,guns,and sour mash! Posts: 2,424	heres a hint-that high sulfer home heating fuel-is the same stuff as the old "off road "diesel for farmers and logging equipment.And another thing -it still burns well in on road diesels in a pinch,ask any rancher! __________________ ...magnomark... ...Just take the shot... Don't bother me-I'm reloading!

10-31-2009, 16:43	#4
markw76 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: range-poor, leftard-rich Portland, Orygun Posts: 7,034	At least the transition to unleaded gasoline was done over a longer period of time, even though some engines still needed hardened valve seats to remain in use. __________________ "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us..they can't get away this time." - Chesty Puller, USMC ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! Semper Gumby كاف

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10-31-2009, 15:33	#3
Crawford Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Virginia Posts: 131	Some thing not mentioned very often is that when they forced the switch to low sulfur diesel they caused thousands of diesel engines that had not been designed for it to be rebuilt. Most of the gaskets and seals used in diesels up until that time had been designed to operate in the high sulfur environment. When they took the sulfur out, the seals shrunk, started leaking and the engines started blowing. If I remember correctly, they gave enough notice for most of the over the road truck manufacturers but that still left and awful lot of agricultural equipment, light construction equipment and marine engines out to dry. Thank you again Congress, you are so good at looking out for the average citizen. The scatological implications of you work are just overwhelming.

11-03-2009, 11:42	#5
Ash Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Central Indiana Posts: 266	Low sulfer diesel fuel is for one thing only. To allow the aftertreatment systems to work correctly. With the previous fuel, aftertreatment systems would foul much sooner (depending on actual sulfer ppm of the current fuel batch, which could vary by quite a bit). As far as I know, when the switch occurred it pertained to on-highway diesel engines only. The switch will/is being made to also include off-highway applications in the near future. (2011 I believe??) Cheers.