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Old 11-23-2001, 17:44   #1
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Hey, I have a N.W.T.F 3in. 12ga pump. Its a very nice gun. I shoot quail and turkey with it. Well, I shoot anything I can thats legal.
My favorite load is a #4 shot for most of my shooting. I have been thinking about going hog hunting and Im not really sure what shot to use. I think 00buckshot will work just fine. Im going to the gun show tomorrow in florida and im thinking about buying a self defence shotgun. I like the Mossberg 500 and I think 00buck will do fine for that.




Well, if you have any thing to say about this thread or lets hear about what kind of shotguns members have.


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Old 11-24-2001, 10:13   #2
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I have a Beretta AL390 12g semi-auto for skeet, trap.

And an old Belgian Browning A5 12g (mid 50's). The previous owner screwed up the barrel a little (there is a small bulge near the muzzle). I have it just for the heck of it.
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Old 12-01-2001, 03:17   #3
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I have 4 12 Gauges, a Remington 870 with a 26" bbl, A mossberg 500 turkey with a 24" ported bbl, a Mossberg 590 with heat shield and 20" bbl, and a Chinese copy of the Ithaca 37 with an 18.5" bbl. of these the 500 Turkey mossberg is my favorite.
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Old 12-11-2001, 14:08   #4
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What does the N.W.T.F 3in. 12ga pump, look like? have you a photo?.

The #4 buckshot that you use, I have used it & this is great for rabbits & small game.
I would not use it for anything bigger though, as there is very little penetration with this buckshot.

00 buckshot would be good for your hog hunting, it's 32 grain balls used.

I would not buy the Mossberg 500, that's if you are using it for defence, as the 590 is stronger than the 500 & that the 590 has a 10 year warrantee. I have had the mossberg 500, it would be great for my woman, as it's a light shotgun.

If you ever buy a self defence shotgun, always buy one that has a choke tube, you must have a range of 35 yards. With the open bore shotguns you clearly do not, yes the balls travel this distance but if the balls are not close together you will most likely miss your target. You only have a range with open bore shotguns, of 15 yards.


04 buckshot: penetrates, erraticaly, 6 to 10" if lucky

00 buckshot: penetrates 13"

000 buckshot: penetrates 15"

Mossberg has self defence shotguns with choke tubs, in the future all police will have choke tubs, or other ways to get the buckshot tight.

http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/Specpurp.htm

#53517 & #53660

If you already own a Mossberg & do not have a choke tube, then you can add one, it increases your barrel length by 2.5 inches or if the barrel is thick enough the local gunsmith can tread one into your barrel, my 590 does not have a thick enough barrel, so I have the screw in, to the end of my barrel.

00 buckshot is good for defence, I use now because of my experience 000 buckshot, as there is a clear difference in performance & stopping power.
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35 yards is a LONG hallway....

(grin).
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Hi Bill
yes I do agree that 35 yards is a long hallway, question to you, can you gurantee that you will be defending yourself or your family in your hallway?.

Anyway shooting a shotgun within a hallway, without a choke tube, that is tight balls to 35 yards, is mad, think about where all the balls are going, can you gurantee yourself that you are not shooting your son in the other room, with the bullets going everywhere.

This is one reason why the police are changing there shotguns, to a more safer shotgun, with choke tubs.

I have 3 shotguns, 2 with added choke tubes, 1 with a spreader tube at the end.

What I would say to anyone, go try your shotgun, see what the spread of balls are at say 15 yards, I think you would be shocked.
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I wouldn't be shocked, because my Beretta AL390 has a Skeet choke on it (grin).

I do agree that if you are using a shotgun, have it choked properly.

That being said, I'd still turn to my AR-15 carbine. It's hard to pass up those 30rd magazines....
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Hi Bill
chokes are all about safety, that's all.

Yes I would like the AR15, but we are not allowed to import them, we do have old ones, but old AR15 I would not touch.

My choice within close self-defence shooting ( up-to 15 yards ) is a shotgun, I do put down shotguns with no choke tubes, but within 15 yards I would use them without any real thinking.

AR15 I would only use at greater than 25 yards, remember with the right buckshot & shotgun, it's like shooting 4 shots of a 9mm with every 1 shot of your shotgun, this is said about 00 buckshot.

I use 000, because of the bigger balls ( 36 grain ) I go to the 3inch cartridge.


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The real difference between the 500 and the 590 is the barrel and magizine, the reciever and internal parts are the same in both.
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Wow you guys are entertaining.

My shotguns are:
1 870 12 gauge full choke m1976
1 870 12 gauge modified choke 1978
1 Berretta 12 gauge BL-2/S over under with speed trigger 1984
1 Browning Gold 12 gauge 2002
1 Remington 410 1950's
1 Rossi matched pair 410/22 for my son 2002

So far the last two are the only guns to yet earn thier keep in the field.

Does anyone else like the speed trigger on the Berretta?
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it sounds like you are looking at the right shotgun and shot.My shotguns are all hunting guns they are a remington 1100 12 ga 3 inch with tubes and a hasting cant/slug barrel
- browning superposed lightning 20 ga early 70s gun o/u -weatherby Regencey 12 ga great wood and o/u engaving -American arms 12 ga shoot 3 1/2 shells choke tubes SxS winchester 21 by far my nicest gun
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3 Ithaca model 37'sNew 12 Ga.,49 year old 16 ga.,25 year old Sid Bell 20 ga.,1 Mossberg 500,20 ga.,NEF 20 ga.Use Model 37 for home defence loaded with 4 shot.In a house,drywall doesn't stop most buckshot.If family members are sleeping and you go thru a wall,they could be killed.1 ounce of 4 lead shot will kill a man if he is hit with in the limits of most houses that the average family lives in,Sorry I don't have a bowling alley in the basement!Seems to me seal teams in Vietnam used #3 buckshot"this was after a big goverment study as to best size shot FOR THERE APPLICATION"Just my 02 cents Aldo
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I have a few, one in paticular the Fed's recently ruled as a class 3 weapon, A Street Sweeper. I also have the following:

King Nitro 12 ga. single shot, 33 inch barrel
Browning Sweet Sixteen, 50's vintage
Browning BT-99 Plus Grade 1 w/ ported barrel
Mossberg 500 Bullpup
Mississippi Valley Arms Dbl Barrel 16 ga.
2-Winchester Model 12 12 ga.

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I have a winchester defender which will hold 8 rounds of ammo. I put a Advanced Technology top folding stock with the ammo holder on the folding arm to hold an extra 5 rounds. It also carries their heat shield. I use it as my primary grouse gun because I needed a gun with a short barrel because my land is heavily wooded with cedars and other trees. It also is fun to shoot with buckshot even though the 3inchers can start to really pound ya.
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