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Old 10-31-2008, 08:11   #1
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Best striker pistol?

Looking for opinions, what do you think the best striker pistol is and why? If I get my carry permit I will be shopping for one. Leaning to XD, excuse the pun but I think it is the best bang for the buck.
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The XD is a nice looking handgun, but I went with the Walther P99 .40 because it has better ergonomics and a nicer trigger with the two stage AS model. It also has a built in decocker, and If I recall correctly the XD dont. Its available in 9mm or .40 and they also make a compact version. Its easy to take down, clean and reassemble. I've had mine for a few years now and have thousands of rounds down range without any problems. Its one of the best kept unadvertised secrets out there. If you get a chance to rent one at a range before you buy, I'd highly recommend it, you'll see what Im talking about.
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GLOCK!!! The most aftermarket parts going, user friendly, and cheap mags!
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what exactly is a striker pistol? that walther looks nice
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I have the an XD .45. No problems yet. Hard to beat 13+1 of 45acp. Might want to check out the new style XDm.
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With a handgun that has a hammer, the hammer spring pushes the hammer towards the firing pin causing it to strike the primer. With a striker fired handgun there is no hammer, there's a spring at the rear of the firing pin that drives it into the primer of the round. Its basically an inline firing pin driven by the spring. The striker fired seems to be the more popular semi auto now. Just about all of them make striker fired pistols now, Ruger, HK, S&W, Tarus, Glock, Walthers and the list goes on.
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Originally Posted by zebraranger View Post
With a handgun that has a hammer, the hammer spring pushes the hammer towards the firing pin causing it to strike the primer. With a striker fired handgun there is no hammer, there's a spring at the rear of the firing pin that drives it into the primer of the round. Its basically an inline firing pin driven by the spring. The striker fired seems to be the more popular semi auto now. Just about all of them make striker fired pistols now, Ruger, HK, S&W, Tarus, Glock, Walthers and the list goes on.
As far as I know, the main advantage to the striker system is with a double action only (DAO) trigger, the pull is lighter and frequently smother then a DAO hammer fired pistol, the reason I am looking at these. I also believe there are less parts for maintenance issues. I think a DAO trigger is safer to carry. I am new to this and still researching so if I am incorrect please chime in.
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Less parts, less distance to pull the trigger! With a traditional DAO pistol you must pull the trigger from rest all the way through to the stop in order to make the hammer cock and fall. This makes for a long and often stiff pull. With a striker fired pistol the striker or firing pin is held at a sort of a half cock. When you chamber a round the striker is put in this position. When you pull the trigger you are bringing the striker fully to the rear and releasing it in one smooth motion. This allows for less trigger travel and much less force is required, Hence a lighter pull.
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"Best" is subjective, so far in a striker fired weapon the Glock 36 with a 6+1 mag.(single stack .45 acp) works best for me. Accurate, compact, lightweight, tough finish, slimmer than the rest with a dbl stack mag. and very reliable.

I normally carry a 5" 1911 .45acp but the Glock 36 is much lighter and resists body salts during the summer a bit better.

Many of flavor in the striker batch but you have to see what fits your needs best.
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Glock #23, #27, that's both the compact, and sub-compact .40cal. I carry the #23 in the winter cause it's easy to conceal with a coat. The #27 in the summer, because it will fit in my pocket!
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If you want the best bang for you buck you can't be a Hi-Point. Now I'll be flamed for saying that but for less that $200.00 I have a pistol that if it does break it'll be replaced by the manufacture for life.

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Well...no offense on the hi point, but i would rather pay a little more for absolute reliability.

As for the 1911...i shot a small compact 1911 springfield and it was very accurate, i think even more than my xd.
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My buddy has an XD. We buy bulk reload ammo at the shows. It's good for target. He ended up selling most of the ammo back to me after he got the XD. It will not feed GA Arms reloads. The round will get jamed against the ramp & upper guide. He has talked to the tech dept at springfield, and they told him to use quality ammo, and none of the XD will do very well with that ammo. They even clearanced the ramp & upper guide at no charge, but still not a fix! That's the only reason I rate it a second to my Glock's.
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weird. i shoot umc rounds all the time and they are pretty cheap. i wonder if they are out of spec or something????
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Originally Posted by deersniper6 View Post
Well...no offense on the hi point, but i would rather pay a little more for absolute reliability.
What is absolute reliability? That it goes bang every time I pull the trigger? If that's so then I have absolute reliability with my Hi-Point.
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I have an XD-40,4" and a XD-9,3" sub-compact, both of which have performed flawlessly and each cost $489.99 NIB.

While these are the only 2 semi-autos I've owned, I cannot imagine a better pistol for the money! I would guess that any of the various pistols mentioned here would be a smart buy.

But everyone is going to have their favorites much like ice cream so I guess you just have to find the flavor that's right for you.

Good luck!
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All good advice above.

My .02 is to find a range that rents many of them, preferably one that lets you use what you want during a set period of time, rather than a set price per piece.

In my experience, no matter how exhaustive your research, it can all be for naught if the thing feels wrong when you fire it.

Also consider how you plan to carry. Given the variety of striker-fired pieces out there, reliability (while a must) takes second place to carry-ability/concealment.

For thin in 9mm or 40SW, consider the Walther PPS and the Kahr line. (Kel-Tec PF-9's have similar profiles, but are concealed hammer operated).

For thicker double-stacks, it'd be hard to go wrong with compact Glocks, SW M&P's, XD's, Walthers, and several others.

We live in times of great opportunity when it comes to carry pieces. "Best" can be debated forever with no conclusion (not suggesting your question sought that), but the true "best" is what fires best in your hands and carries best on your person. Try as many as you csan.

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Originally Posted by Joe Garibaldi View Post
We live in times of great opportunity when it comes to carry pieces. "Best" can be debated forever with no conclusion ...
How true. Glock makes a fine firearm, but for me it has the wrong grip angle. It's not a natural pointer. Beretta's, another fine handgun, are too thick in the grip for me. It takes time and hands-on research to determine what is best for you and what will not work.

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Originally Posted by Joe Garibaldi View Post
All good advice above.

In my experience, no matter how exhaustive your research, it can all be for naught if the thing feels wrong when you fire it.

Also consider how you plan to carry. Given the variety of striker-fired pieces out there, reliability (while a must) takes second place to carry-ability/concealment.

For thin in 9mm or 40SW, consider the Walther PPS and the Kahr line. (Kel-Tec PF-9's have similar profiles, but are concealed hammer operated).

For thicker double-stacks, it'd be hard to go wrong with compact Glocks, SW M&P's, XD's, Walthers, and several others.

We live in times of great opportunity when it comes to carry pieces. "Best" can be debated forever with no conclusion (not suggesting your question sought that), but the true "best" is what fires best in your hands and carries best on your person. Try as many as you csan.
Good advice (from all). I plan on a kel-tec PF 9 in addition to whatever I wind up with as a result of this search. In my neck of the woods, concealed carry is not really all that necessary most of the time so the PF9 would be fine as it will probably (hopefully) never be needed, as they say, better to have and not need then need and not have. The larger pistol I am looking at would be mainly for the range and when I venture off to more dangerous territory, whether it be a location or group of people I may have to deal with for work. I never know who the next client will be. I would have the larger pistol with me with one group I am dealing with now Ö. if I had it.

I have time to decide, I stopped by the local range today and it is again taking 6 months to process licenses and I donít need to buy something until near the end of that time frame, so the research goes on.
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Originally Posted by TWSARCH View Post
As far as I know, the main advantage to the striker system is with a double action only (DAO) trigger, the pull is lighter and frequently smother then a DAO hammer fired pistol, the reason I am looking at these. I also believe there are less parts for maintenance issues. I think a DAO trigger is safer to carry. I am new to this and still researching so if I am incorrect please chime in.
A, 'pretensioned striker-fired' pistol is NOT a DAO design. A true DAO design is only to be found on double action revolvers. Semiautomatic pistols now come in a wide variety of action types which, in one way or another, mimic a double action revolver. Among others there's SIG'S, 'DAK' action and H&K's 'LEM' action, Para Ordinance's, 'LDA' double action, and Walther's, 'AS' double action along with the heavy first shot, 'PPK' double action.

The most important feature of a, 'pretensioned striker-fired' pistol hasn't been mentioned, yet, in this thread: It's the pistol's ability to fire quickly, smoothly, and accurately from the trigger's RESET position. Yes, the Glock's grip angle isn't exactly what it should be; but, you learn to compensate.

In my opinion, of all the, 'pretensioned striker-fired' pistols, the Steyr M-1A has the best, 'pretensioned striker-fired' trigger mechanism which is closely followed by SIG's short-throw DAK action; and, Glock has the second best, 'pretensioned striker-fired' mechanism with the most user-tunable trigger reset. (While NOT perfect, I've learned how to live well with my Glocks.)

I've yet to meet anyone who owns a Walther P99 (in any of its various trigger mechanism, 'flavors') who does not like his Walther; but, I could say the same thing about the Steyr M-1A, too. Me? I have never shot the XD design well; and, I really dislike the Springfield XD's standard trigger reset. With most handguns I'm a decent marksman; but, the XD's high bore axis and gritty trigger reset just don't work for me - not when instinct (point) shooting and not during rapid fire, either.
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A true DAO design is only to be found on double action revolvers.
Careful, the CZ 100 is not a double action revolver.

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The Kel-Tec pistols are also DAO.
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Originally Posted by chadkiser View Post
If you want the best bang for you buck you can't be a Hi-Point. Now I'll be flamed for saying that but for less that $200.00 I have a pistol that if it does break it'll be replaced by the manufacture for life.
when the critical moment comes and the gun malfunctions, and you die..will hipoint replace the gun and send it to your next of kin?
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Kahr PM9.....break it in and use a good +P ammo. 2nd. choice is a 38 hammerless snubbie with +P ammo. High cap. is for playing on the range or cops shooting it out with criminals. As a civilian, if you need that many rounds to defend yourself, you're in a war so nothing short of full auto will do you any good.
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Originally Posted by GREASEMONKEY View Post
Glock #23, #27, that's both the compact, and sub-compact .40cal. I carry the #23 in the winter cause it's easy to conceal with a coat. The #27 in the summer, because it will fit in my pocket!
I have the 23 and like it as well. I agree that the summer can cause carry problems. Ive don't remember if Ive handled a 27 before, but would like the sub compact for summer months. Does it fit nicely into your pocket? I guess I should go handle one to see. You think that Glock will ever make a "slim line" single stack .40 similar to their .45? Id love to see one...
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