I know what you mean. My 24/7 trigger system is a lot like your 709 if not the same.
Don't know for sure because I have not experienced the 709; but if it is like my 24/7 it is the best of all worlds.
I maybe be wrong; but I think the main difference is the 24/7 has a decocker that the 709 may not have. Perhaps you can correct me here.
Both have nice SA triggers; but I was attracted to the decocker in case I wanted to store as a house gun and have one more level of safety.

I am a fan of the S&W M&P line but I will have to give it to the Glock. This is based on years of service, availability of parts, and the fact you can find an armorer just about anywhere.

I carry a glock 23 for work, it works fine, shoots fine, and I have never not qualified with it, however I went through academy with a XD45 which I prefer and I would carry if I could.

Steyr. don't worry about spares availability you won't ever need any.

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Thank you Marlin, finally someone who knows a what a true quality pistol is!

My Glock 23 never fails to Go Bang ...

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I dont know if anyone has mentioned Taurus yet...
They have really cleaned up their manufacturing processes and are chruning out quality stuff at amazing prices.

Got to handle a 24/7 G2 in .40 cal at the range and loved it!!
After that my father and I went into the gun shop at put one on order in 45 ACP

Almost half the cost of the Springfield XDm with just as many crazy features.

Check 'em out, the make a compact 24/7 G2 in 9mm and .40 cal as well

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I'm a 1911 guy but wanted a decent quality "spare" pistol in case 9mm is all I could get my hands on. Found a S&W Sigma for $240 with two mags and box. Seems like a nice piece for the money. Wasn't looking for top-shelf because I already have that with a 1911. The trigger is a little long but for practical defensive use it's exactly what I needed. I'll probably get a 40 Sigma next. But the 1911 is what I'll use so long as I can beg, borrow, or steal 45ACP.

Best is hard to define. Glocks have the biggest support network and have been in police service for a long time. I've carried one on the job for twelve years. While I'd prefer a 9mm over the 40, it's been a good duty weapon. I know a lot of folks with XD's and after shooting both an XD and a Steyer I thought both were improvements over the Glock for shootability. I have noticed that when XD's are issued or used quite a bit there seems to be some problems that most folks don't have with milder usage. Most owners tend to love their XD's Right now SW seem to be having great success marketing and selling their MP line to departments. I asked our armorer his opinion of the MP and he had positive comments. He mentioned one area in the design that could see excessive wear with constant loading and unloading that occurs with oncoming-outgoing shifts. I've never shot a Walther P99 but I remember the thing melting in my hand like an extension. Not many handguns feel that nice to me on first try. Taurus has some interesting designs but it seems there can be quality problems on their in-house designs. Because of Taurus's USA support these issues can be worked out but I don't know of any agencies here in the states that issue them. If I was suggesting I'd recommend Glock.

After spending some time shooting Glock and XD pistols together at the range, I couldn't say that one has a signifiant advantage over the other. Both were easy to shoot and maintain.

Girabaldi has the right idea ..try them out.and see what you like. I bought and XDM in 40 and loved the pistol, asthetically .. Problem was I wasn't proficient with it. I still own and like my Glock 23. I have fired the SWMP40 and 9mm and like both. Plus they have option of a safety and interchangable grips.

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The only thing i hate about my glock is how it hurts my knuckle when i shoot it.

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Wish I could try them out first. Here in NY you have to buy before you try, at least with the first one. One needs a permit to touch a hand gun but you have to submit a receipt for the one you bought with the application. Only after you get approved can you take delivery and actually handle it.

You have got to be ****ing me. And I thought that the People's Republic of California was screwed up.

Well, after evaluating a lot of striker pistols, I went with the Ruger SR40c and really like it. Quality construction, accurate, and fun to shoot.

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I've owned a Glock since 1999 and carried one since 2001 and like them. I've shot both XD's and Steyr's and came away thinking that both pistols shot nicer than my Glocks. Better ergos that worked better for me. Once I handled a P99 in a shop and the pistol was one of the best feeling handguns I ever picked up. Having shot better handling pistols and felt better fitting pistols I still would go with Glock. Over the years thanks to better salesmanship and dealer support more Glocks have been sold both to individuals and police agencies. They have proved themselves on the streets. The Steyr I shot really was nice but there is no real support either from the importer or from the after market community.
I know a dozen or so people that own XD's and love them. For the majority of people that buy XD's they perform well. Springfield Armory that imports them does a good job of supporting them and there's lots of aftermarket support. The problems with XD's seem to be when they're bought and issued to police departments. They don't seem to hold up over time. Whether it's round counts over eight thousand, ten thousand, or fifteen thousand, the XD's seem to have issues. Most individuals will never reach these round counts and even some police departments won't. But keep the gun inservice long enough, even with just annual qualifications and there will be a time when they reach these round counts.
I know there are many stories of Glock failures, particularly 40 caliber, but for the sheer number of M22's in service they are minimal. Plus Glock USA tends to be very interested when these events occur with any models and will make things right.

[QUOTE=Strm_Trpr;649551]I carry a glock 23 for work, it works fine, shoots fine, and I have never not qualified with it, however I went through academy with a XD45 which I prefer and I would carry if I could.[/Q
XD45 ftw
i also have a glock 19 which is reliable but not as comfortable to shoot as an XD/XDm

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I got a few 1000 rds through a xdm 3.8 I really love that gun.