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Old 09-13-2012, 22:57   #1
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New Mini, a little confused.

Hello, everyone.

I recently traded my M1A Scout for a deal that included a Mini-14. Yes, I know M1A's are kings of the rifle world, but I am simply a lowly factory worker and I cannot afford to shoot .308.

I am completely in love with my new Mini, but I'm a little lost on which series it is? I'm new to Minis, but I adore Ruger. Internet reading has brought me into the world of inaccurate Minis with thin barrels that people seem to hate.

Mine is stainless steel, with a black plastic stock. It is stamped Ruger Mini-14 .223 Cal. The serial is 196-23***. Does anyone have any idea where this puts this rifle? Ruger's site lists it as a 2003 model, but is rather vague, and I'm calling untrustworthy at a glance.

Secondly, it does not have the integrated scope mounts built into the receiver, unfortunetally. So, what is the best way to scope this?

All in all, I'm a backyard/field shooter, blessed with plenty of open space to simply take my rifle on a walk and blast groundhogs with it. So in the end I'm just having fun. Thanks to all in advance.
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Its 196 Series. Essentially the first 3 numbers of the serial number designates the series. 581 and some late 580 series is when Ruger started putting on the thicker barrels.

As far as how to mount optics.. if I were to have a 196 Series Mini.. I would look into getting an Ultimak scout rail. It would both allow you to mount optics and add some barrel rigidity which improves accuracy. Also, I think one benefit to your series of Minis is that I think the iron sights are high enough to be able to co-witness most red dots with the Ultimak rail (but not Amega).. I could be wrong about this though.

Congrats on your Mini. I too am an M1A lover but "settled" with the Mini because I can't afford to shoot 308 either. I'm completely happy though since its such a handy rifle. I have mine setup with a hooded front site without any optics. I've decided that I like my Mini light and fast.
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Thank you for shedding light on that gorenut.

However, after looking at the rails, I think I'll just look into aftermarket iron sights. Could you suggest any? I am just not a fan of that thick blade front sight...the M1As fantastic iron sights have spoiled me. I'd rather stay away from optics if I could fix that problem.
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option 1:
B-Square Ruger Mini 14 Dovetail with Rings Blue - Natchez Shooters Supplies
if you go this route you'll want a cheek rest unless you have GIGANTIC cheekbones, or a really fat face... recommend this:http://www.tacticalworks.com/Karsten...t-A-Model.html

option 2
Amega Ruger Mini 14 Mount
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Mini-14, Mini-30 Optic Mounts, Scope Mount, Mini-14 / 30 Stock Set, Optics

option 3
NO-DRILL, NO-TAP SCOPE MOUNT - Brownells
(replaces your rear iron sight - you'll want Stock # :794-001-014WB for the 181+ series )


what I did (option 4 )
Mini-14 MCS Upgrade Package|Mini-14 Chassis|Rifle Chassis|Weapon Upgrades|Troy Industries



please note the Burris Ar332 scope and Magpul Mbus mounted to the monolithic top rail


for irons...
http://www.tech-sights.com/
for the rear. you want part number RR200.

for the front:
http://www.sunflowerammo.com/Mo-Reap...-Mo-Reaper.htm
you'll want the Mini 14 straight type.
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For aftermarket irons.. there's only 1 rear that I can think of.. luckily its a good one.

try tech-sights
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Thank you both very much.

Mr. Snuffalupagus that Mini is indeed wicked.

I can tell this is going to be my favorite toy. Essential my End of Days rifle.
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Originally Posted by Elgo View Post
Thank you both very much.

Mr. Snuffalupagus that Mini is indeed wicked.

I can tell this is going to be my favorite toy. Essential my End of Days rifle.
no problem

after you've had a chance to shoot it - if it's not as accurate as you'd like...

you may want to try some accurizing tricks.

try these searches on the perfect union:
Mini 14 barrel strut
Gas block re torque
bedding
trigger job

the above are all considered the best "bang for the buck" accurizing tricks for the mini 14

if you are handy you can do them all yourself with minimal outlay of funds.
if you don't feel comfortable working on your own trigger. there is an excellent fourm member who specializes in the mini trigger... his name will come up in your searches often.
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See the attached post, at the bottom there is a lot of good info on each model by serial number by including year of manufacturer and barrel twist and scope mounts.

How many different series are there?
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Barrel strut would be a great choice and will make it look like the lovely M1A you traded. Along with the tech-sights which is M1 style it will be a heck of a looker and probably a more than adequate shooter.
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This is my current Mini configuration. I've opted to just avoid optics as well as ever since I got the Mo-Reaper installed, shooting irons has become extremely fun and fast. It's a muzzle brake and hooded front sight combo. I can see this being paired up with a Tech-Sight rear perfectly.
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I personally can attest to the Ultimak, TECH-Sight, and Accu-strut. The barrel strut is a must mod for the thin barreled Mini-14s.
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I agree with kking199 About the strutt. I put a mo rod and the mo reaper on mine, and she shoots great. Mine is a old 181.

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I've got both a mini (196 series as a matter of fact) and an M1A SOCOM II and I love them both. I personally like the front blade on my mini. Its not precise, but its easy to pick up in heavy brush. I do however, dislike the rear sight. The aperture is loose and you have to have a pen, bullet or sight tool to male adjustments.

And snuff, quit posting those sexy pics. Its going to be tax time before I get mine (work has slowed down) and it makes me sad
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Originally Posted by bcavin View Post
I've got both a mini (196 series as a matter of fact) and an M1A SOCOM II and I love them both. I personally like the front blade on my mini. Its not precise, but its easy to pick up in heavy brush. I do however, dislike the rear sight. The aperture is loose and you have to have a pen, bullet or sight tool to male adjustments.

And snuff, quit posting those sexy pics. Its going to be tax time before I get mine (work has slowed down) and it makes me sad


you mean like this?
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What is the serial number range of the rifle in the Troy MCS? I was told by Troy that my series 186 GB would not fit their chassis.
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Originally Posted by dnabowyer View Post
What is the serial number range of the rifle in the Troy MCS? I was told by Troy that my series 186 GB would not fit their chassis.
it's a 185 gb.

it fits fine.
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Originally Posted by dnabowyer View Post
What is the serial number range of the rifle in the Troy MCS? I was told by Troy that my series 186 GB would not fit their chassis.


From what I understand, the 180 series (e.g. 180-xxxxx not 18x-xxxxx) will not fit. Someone correct me if im wrong, but IIRC the original run of mini 14s (180 series) had slightly longer receivers than all series afterwards.
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Ruger Mini 14 questions

Elgo,

I'm sure everyone answered your questions. I did a lot of research before purchasing my Ruger Mini30 in 7.62x39, I made sure it was new and therefore in the 580 series manufacture since in 2005 Ruger retooled their Mini production lines to address accuracy issues with "old" Mini's and to incorporate some new "tweaks".

FWIW, I wrote this before reading everyone else's reply to you. I second and third the motion for you to buy an Accu-Strut to alleviate concerns about barrel "stringing" when the barrel heats up during shooting.

Clearly for the Mini14 there are tons of add-ons for it.

Unfortunately for me, there are not many add-ons or "furniture" for the Mini30, but that's not why I bought it, I bought it because it has the knockdown power of an AK, a battle proven operating system design, they're built like tanks and they're built here in the USA, not in the Czech Republic or Brazil.

I'm like that guy on TV, if I were to be stranded on a strange planet and asked what firearm I'd take with me to defend myself, yep, it's be the Ruger Mini30... milled receiver, not a stamped receiver like the AK and with the heavy barrel, night night termite.

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Originally Posted by Elgo View Post
Hello, everyone.

I recently traded my M1A Scout for a deal that included a Mini-14. Yes, I know M1A's are kings of the rifle world, but I am simply a lowly factory worker and I cannot afford to shoot .308.

I am completely in love with my new Mini, but I'm a little lost on which series it is? I'm new to Minis, but I adore Ruger. Internet reading has brought me into the world of inaccurate Minis with thin barrels that people seem to hate.

Mine is stainless steel, with a black plastic stock. It is stamped Ruger Mini-14 .223 Cal. The serial is 196-23***. Does anyone have any idea where this puts this rifle? Ruger's site lists it as a 2003 model, but is rather vague, and I'm calling untrustworthy at a glance.

Secondly, it does not have the integrated scope mounts built into the receiver, unfortunetally. So, what is the best way to scope this?

All in all, I'm a backyard/field shooter, blessed with plenty of open space to simply take my rifle on a walk and blast groundhogs with it. So in the end I'm just having fun. Thanks to all in advance.

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Originally Posted by bcavin View Post
From what I understand, the 180 series (e.g. 180-xxxxx not 18x-xxxxx) will not fit. Someone correct me if im wrong, but IIRC the original run of mini 14s (180 series) had slightly longer receivers than all series afterwards.
this is correct.

also the mini 30, while similar in dimensions to the mini 14, does require a slightly wider inlet at the mag well in some stocks -
these being the SCAR (they make a mini 30 specific one) the Troy (they don't make a mini 30 specific model... but I suspect a machinist with a mill could indeed make a mini 30 fit in a troy MCS... but it could be a pretty expensive experiment) also the Tapco requires some dremel work to get a mini 30 into it (instructions on this are actually provided with the stock.)

the higher ejection angle of the pre ranch minis I think is what causes Troy to say it's a no go - but it seems to work fine in my case.
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