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Old 06-28-2012, 17:47   #1
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Where to find a mini 14 tactical in Ca.

I have tried gun shops who tell me that distributors won't ship tacticals to Ca. because of the flash suppressor. I have seen posts in the past from Ca. talking about tacticals so I know they are here. Who can get me one.
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PS: Ruger could sell lots of them here if they would switch to a muzzle break for Ca.
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They won't sell them in California I don't think. A lot of companies will not do business in California, especially gun related. Look at Barrett Firearms, Ronnie Barrett won't sell or even service any Barrett firearms previously sold to California LE agencies. There might be some tacticals in California but I sure would not want to be caught with an unregistered "assault weapon" there.
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Old 06-28-2012, 19:07   #3
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mini 14 tactical

The only non conforming part on the tactical is the removable flash supressor.
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Would it make the barrel too short if removed?
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Get a mod 5820 LE. It's basically a tactical without the flash suppressor. It is only available in SS, but comes with a 16.15" barrel. It's featureless and is CA legal.
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Originally Posted by MISFIRE View Post
I have tried gun shops who tell me that distributors won't ship tacticals to Ca. because of the flash suppressor. I have seen posts in the past from Ca. talking about tacticals so I know they are here. Who can get me one.
Thanks Bill
PS: Ruger could sell lots of them here if they would switch to a muzzle break for Ca.
You will probably have to go through an authorized L.E. dealer. They can order the tactical and swap out the flash suppressor for a muzzle brake. The one near me will do that. ( for a pretty high markup.) Good luck.
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If you are talking about the following rifle:

Rugerģ Mini-14ģ Tactical Rifle Autoloading Rifle Models

It has a little bit to do with the flash hider, but it also has to deal with the pistol grip, collapsing stock, PLUS a detachable magazine.

Ruger does not make a CA compliant Mini-14 Tactical. For this thing to be CA compliant with the flash hider, collapsing stock, and pistol grip, you would have to install a mag-lock (bullet button for Mini-14s) to prevent quick magazine changes.

Assault Planet Ruger Mini 14/30 Mag Lock [MNRBB] - $29.95 : Parallax Tactical LLC, Your SoCal San Diego E.B.R. Source!
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I am imagining that you would have to find a dealer who would install the bullet button device. Never seen one on a Mini due to the fact that the magazine release is not an AR-style button but rather the lever behind the magazine.
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Why on earth would you make a Mini less functional in order to add cosmetic features? I understand AR's, a bullet button is your only choice and if you're varmint hunting or target shooting it's not even a real hinderance. I even sort of get the EBR M1A guys (well, not really, that thing is hideous) because fast mag swaps generally aren't an issue there either. But adding a bullet button just so you can have a pistol grip, collapsable stock or unapproved muzzle device is just dumb.
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mini 14 tactical

The tactical I am looking for is black with a black composite standard rifle stock . No pistol grip etc. The only non conforming part is the Flash suppresor.
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Originally Posted by MISFIRE View Post
I have tried gun shops who tell me that distributors won't ship tacticals to Ca. because of the flash suppressor. I have seen posts in the past from Ca. talking about tacticals so I know they are here. Who can get me one.
Thanks Bill
PS: Ruger could sell lots of them here if they would switch to a muzzle break for Ca.
Why do you want that rifle?why not a different mini?I have the tactical and other minis,all good rifles
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Originally Posted by MISFIRE View Post
The tactical I am looking for is black with a black composite standard rifle stock . No pistol grip etc. The only non conforming part is the Flash suppresor.
Bill
The L.E. dealer near me will order these. See if the one near you will.
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Cool Cailfornia Legal Mini-14 Tactical

First of all what is the most important thing that the State of California Law Enforcement want to see on a weapon in this state 1# if the rifle that you have has a 10 round magazine in it. 2# If the rifle has a BULLET BUTTON on it. And that is how you can own a Semi Auto rifle in this state, if you have those two items on your rifle they will not mess with you. (BULLET BUTTON) means a rifle that needs a tool to release the magazine from the magazine well that tool can be a screw driver a bullet hence the words Bullet Button. After that you can legally have a
1. Collapsible stock
2. Flash hider
3. Forward grip
4. Flare launcher
And so on read the California Justice Department statements able cans and can not’s when it comes to laws concerning Semi Auto rifles. If you don’t understand that then go to AR15.Com - Your Firearm Resource. (AR-15, AR-10, M4 Carbine, M16, H&K, SIG, FNH, FAL, AK-47, 50 Cal, M1/M1A, Handgun, Pistol, Training, Hunting, and More!) and there is more information concerning Semi Auto Rifles in the state of California.
BUT MOST OF ALL DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK AND LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE LAWS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BECAUSE ONE MISTACK YOU CAN AND WILL LOSE EVERY FIREARM YOU OWN. IT IS OPEN WAR ON PEOPLE WHOM OWN FIREARMS IN CALIFORNIA.

RifleGear has the Mini-14 Bullet button

AR-15 Magazines, Bullet Button.

, California Legal, Lower Receivers
also has the Mini-14 Bullet Button

Good Luck

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You can buy a Mini 14 or 30 in California without a bullet button no problem, if you can't get a tactical model without the flash hider why not get the standard model? They ar "featureless" rifles. 10 round mags, no bullet button, no pistol grip.
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Originally Posted by Rogervzv View Post
I am imagining that you would have to find a dealer who would install the bullet button device. Never seen one on a Mini due to the fact that the magazine release is not an AR-style button but rather the lever behind the magazine.
It is not a button like on ARs. In fact, it is a block that covers the magazine release and has a hole in it that allows you to use a tool to move it out of place to release the magazine.

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If you can't get the LE model with the 16" barrel and no flash hider, get a Ranch Rifle and lop off the barrel to 16.1"...

I have black on black Ranch Rifle purchased in CA. Adding a bullet button to a Mini defeats the reason to own it in CA.
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Originally Posted by ava8harrierusmc51 View Post
First of all what is the most important thing that the State of California Law Enforcement want to see on a weapon in this state 1# if the rifle that you have has a 10 round magazine in it. 2# If the rifle has a BULLET BUTTON on it. And that is how you can own a Semi Auto rifle in this state, if you have those two items on your rifle they will not mess with you. (BULLET BUTTON) means a rifle that needs a tool to release the magazine from the magazine well that tool can be a screw driver a bullet hence the words Bullet Button. After that you can legally have a
1. Collapsible stock
2. Flash hider
3. Forward grip
4. Flare launcher
And so on read the California Justice Department statements able cans and can notís when it comes to laws concerning Semi Auto rifles. If you donít understand that then go to AR15.Com - Your Firearm Resource. (AR-15, AR-10, M4 Carbine, M16, H&K, SIG, FNH, FAL, AK-47, 50 Cal, M1/M1A, Handgun, Pistol, Training, Hunting, and More!) and there is more information concerning Semi Auto Rifles in the state of California.
BUT MOST OF ALL DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK AND LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE LAWS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BECAUSE ONE MISTACK YOU CAN AND WILL LOSE EVERY FIREARM YOU OWN. IT IS OPEN WAR ON PEOPLE WHOM OWN FIREARMS IN CALIFORNIA.

RifleGear has the Mini-14 Bullet button

AR-15 Magazines, Bullet Button.

, California Legal, Lower Receivers
also has the Mini-14 Bullet Button

Good Luck

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In my mind none of this is necessary for the min OR the M1A. Every M1A I have seen here comes into the state with a verified muzzle break instead of a flash hider. The rifle is now 100% legal, just like the mini ranch, nothing else needed.
for the OP, i agree, buy ranch and make your own but keep it legal. Not worth fighting with the law over,yet.
we cannot let them go farther, as the bills coming up will do, but gonna be alsmost impossible to change what already is. I doubt we will ever see a conservative in the Gov seat and the majority in both houses in this state, ever.
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Check with Calguns there are out of state FFLs that will prep guns for Ca sales before shipping them in to the state by removing the flash hider or adding a bullet button.
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Originally Posted by Overkill1369 View Post
It is not a button like on ARs. In fact, it is a block that covers the magazine release and has a hole in it that allows you to use a tool to move it out of place to release the magazine.

Good info. Never seen one of those.
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Originally Posted by 51colt View Post
Check with Calguns there are out of state FFLs that will prep guns for Ca sales before shipping them in to the state by removing the flash hider or adding a bullet button.
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Sure. You can own black rifles even in CA; you just have to have a bullet button equivalent. If you are going to depart from "featureless" i.e. no folding stock, no pistol grip, no flash suppressor, etc. I would suggest that you need the button. Watch out for any attachment (i.e. "muzzle brake") at the end of the barrel. Even if it is just a compensator and not a flash suppressor per se, if it has the effect of minimizing muzzle flash the cops will call it a suppressor and you are off to the legal races. Not worth it.

For me, I am fine with my featureless Mini 14s. I took my suppressor off when they became illegal from my 1981 vintage Mini. I miss it, but what the heck, these people just keep electing Democrats.
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You could just get a Ranch model and send it to Gundoc to have the barrel chopped for cheap (I'm guessing this is one of the reasons you want the Tac). You can then get a Mo-Reaper for the muzzle brake and it also gives a far superior front sight.

Heres mine:


I love the hooded.

Haven't chopped the barrel down, but still really thinking about it.
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Originally Posted by Rogervzv View Post
Sure. You can own black rifles even in CA; you just have to have a bullet button equivalent.
The bullet button may become a museum piece soon if things go the wrong way:

The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!! - Calguns.net
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The bullet button may become a museum piece soon if things go the wrong way:

The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!! - Calguns.net
I wanna be hopeful and optimistic.. but this has been a back and forth thing for years. I am grateful of all the progress organizations/people like Calguns does for us.. but we definitely still have a ways to go.
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Originally Posted by gorenut View Post
I wanna be hopeful and optimistic.. but this has been a back and forth thing for years. I am grateful of all the progress organizations/people like Calguns does for us.. but we definitely still have a ways to go.
Get a featureless wood stocked Mini 14/30 or M1-a (in Ca) and don't worry about any damn buttons, mag locks ,ect... In my book having a bastardized Black Rifle in Ca. is not worth the handi-caps imposed. IMHO you are better off spending money to accurize your mini and keeping it as instantly mag detachable.

For those in Ca. - Get involved with the pro-gun groups like: Gun Ownwers of Ca. (GOC). Ca. Rifle and Pistol assn. (CRPA), Local Tea Party and Gun Club groups. And if your not willing to spend a little time and money to be active, don't bitch when all our guns and hunting are outlawed in Ca.
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I am pretty knowledgeable on SB249 and have corresponded with other lawyers (I am also one) on the subject.

I do not think that SB249 will outlaw BBs. It will surely outlaw magnetic bullet button tools -- a device that magnetically attaches to a BB and allows it to be operated with your finger, i.e. without a tool.

That having been said, it is a bad bill that needs to go down to defeat.

Although I have a black rifle I prefer my Mini 14 over any black rifle. It balances sweet, shoots better than I do, and avoids potential hassles with the cops.
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