I just got a new '580' stainless ranch. I field stripped it to clean it, and when I removed the slide spring and guide rod the buffer cross pin and buffer bushing fell out because the pin is loose. There is a different set-up with my old '180'. These parts dont exist on it. Is it normal for the pin to be so loose that it falls out when you turn the rifle over?

It's that way in my RR


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Same here on my SS mini 30.

The tension from the recoil spring is all that holds the pin in place. Every time I strip my Mini, I forget this -- until the pin and "buffer" hit my foot.

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Thanks guys. I guess I am ready to go to the range and try this baby out. I got to shoot one of these a while back and I couldn't believe how much more accurate it was than my old '180'.

The old 180 is almost a weapon unto itself compared to the 181 and later versions. Have fun!

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