Grabbed 2 boxes each today of 55gr HP and 62gr FMJ TulAmmo. All are head stamped TulAmmo, and the box says boxer primed. Box also says "manufacturer: OJSC". ???
I'll be trying to get out this weekend to see how they perform and feed.
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crow my mine is a mini 14. i have seen some wolf boxer primed but most of what i see around here is berdan primed. my ds arms fal says no steel cased at all. there was some bad wolf atound a few years that blew up some guns(you can see pics on the fal files) now there are guys who are using brown/silver bear with no problems.
Heres a rundown on Wolf ammo.
WOLF Polyformance
.223 55 & 62 grain FMJ & HP are boxer primed
.223 77 grain HP is Berdan primed
.40 S&W & .45 acp Boxer primed
All 7.62 x39 and All other calibers are Berden primed
WOLF Military Classic
All calibers are Berden primed
I bought a case of Tula .223 and have not yet shot any of it, so I can't comment. I have shot over 1000 rounds of Tula 9mm through my Glock 19 with no problems. Goes bang and is as accurate as any ammo.
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There was a factory review about 7-8 posts above that says different.
OK, but to be fair, that test was for wear on chamber and bore. I think the bolt and extractor would take more of a beating, myself.
Plus, do you really think that they'd post the results if it showed otherwise?
Not trying to sway anyone away, but I like to mention that I have had problems with this ammo in the past. Wolf is another story....never any problems with it, I just like the brass better.
I see it kinda like feeding your kids. Sure, Mcdonalds is nice and cheap, but I'd rather make a healthy meal for them. To each their own.
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The questions is, does steel cased ammo cause more wear and tear on the Mini 14s bolt, extractor, and firing pin?
I'm going to say probably. I have shot and will shoot steel cased .223 in my Mini 14 and AR's. It's not bad practice ammo and its cheap. We do some high volume shooting here and I can get Wolf, Herter's and Tula cheaper then I can reload. Then theres the time reloading large quantity's of ammo. I just don't have that kind of time.
I have not yet had a failure to extract shooting steel, and that will probably kill an extractor faster then anything. Also extractors are a wear part and replaceable. I have an extra one and its spring for my Mini and a couple for my AR's. Most all my extra AR parts were given to me from my smith and the guys I shoot with. So far I have not needed any of them.
OK, managed to get out and try out those 2 boxes of TulAmmo I picked up. And after consideration of the facts surrounding my experience, I'll have to say IT SUCKS! Out of 20 rounds of the 55 gr HP I had one fail to extract, and inconsistent patterns on the target. With the 62 gr FMJ I had 2 fail to extracts, although the patterns were a bit more consistent. And yes, my weapons are always clean before shooting. But they were pretty dirty after a mere 40 rounds of this Russian ammo. You'd think I shot 200 rounds by the looks of the chamber and receiver.
With all 3 fail to extracts, the extractor ripped the lip right off the cartridge, causing me to have to find the missing piece of metal in the magazine before continuing, so I could make sure I wasn't feeding it back into the chamber after extracting the casing with a cleaning rod.
I have 840 rounds of M855 on the way. No more bi-metal or epoxy coated rounds will ever see their way into my Mini again.
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i don't use russian ammo because i heard it's terrible for all rifles other than russian, i spend a dollar or 2 more for salt lake city ammo or buy armscor ammo for like 5-6 dollars/20 rounds, it's not as dirty and shoots fine in my mini.
Not having done my research I picked up 200 rnds of Tula FMJ 55 gr at Walmart a couple weeks ago. My local range does not allow steel anything so thus far I have not been able to shoot it. Regardless of how it does I doubt I will buy it again. A couple bucks either way is not worth it to me.
Yesterday I shoot PMC 55 gr 223 back to back with AE X193 55 gr - WOW the 556 rocks!
Well, some REAL ammo arrived today. Tempted to get me a couple more cans since they dropped their price $30 a can. Naturally, right after I buy mine, it goes on sale.
Got 5 loaded mags on standby, and this left over. Fun times ahead.
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