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How long will a Mini 14 last?

Forgive me for a stupid question but I was thinking about this today. How many rounds will a average Mini 14 be able to go without having a major failure?

I would like to hear from you Mini 14 owners who have 1000s of rounds through your rifles about how they hold up, and what parts you had to replace along the way? How long did your original recoil springs hold up?

Let me know your opinions.
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Well I have a 185 series and thousands and thousands of round down the pipe with no malfunctions and the original recoil spring. The only thing I ever bought for it was an extra stock liner and the mag well reinforcement and the screws and washers for a Choate side folder stock so I could switch back and forth as needed without messing with the liner and reinforcement. I also bought an extra extractor, extractor spring and plunger, but have never needed it.
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Originally Posted by Jeff F View Post
Well I have a 185 series and thousands and thousands of round down the pipe with no malfunctions and the original recoil spring. The only thing I ever bought for it was an extra stock liner and the mag well reinforcement and the screws and washers for a Choate side folder stock so I could switch back and forth as needed without messing with the liner and reinforcement. I also bought an extra extractor, extractor spring and plunger, but have never needed it.


This seems to be the norm of all the stories I heard of people with their minis since the 1970's.
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I own a 180 series. I bought it knowing full well that it is no longer supported by Ruger. No parts are available anywhere as far as I know. With that said I have confidence in it to be functioning for many years to come if given decent care and treatment. It is already over 35 years old and served as a Police Department rifle for many years. I plan on using it til it or I no longer work.... then I may cannibalize another 180? I love the all wood look and iron sights.... works for me.
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See the Yoda trigger job vid by Nutnfancy and he talks about the hard steal Ruger uses in these rifles. These are hard core work horses they are not made to fail.

May the AR guys are gun shy after the constant failures, but ya just don't have them issues...


Unless you are me... My MINI 14 is at Ruger right now being fixed. My Bolt slips off the op rod under sustain fire... Uncanny unheard of issue until now.

I am the exception to the rule. I love my mini and I miss it.
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Now if I had a bolt issue or any part issue with my AR I could of just drove my butt down to Silver State Arms or Bizzar Guns, bought the part needed, if I did not already have it and fixed it at my kitchen table.
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Originally Posted by Jeff F View Post
Now if I had a bolt issue or any part issue with my AR I could of just drove my butt down to Silver State Arms or Bizzar Guns, bought the part needed, if I did not already have it and fixed it at my kitchen table.
That would be ideal. Maybe if the MINI failed as often as the AR do, they would have a need to stock pile parts around the country.

But Ruger is cool, they fix it all for free form me, and I just had to pay to ship it to them.
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Originally Posted by Magog View Post
That would be ideal. Maybe if the MINI failed as often as the AR do, they would have a need to stock pile parts around the country.

But Ruger is cool, they fix it all for free form me, and I just had to pay to ship it to them.
I had my Mini-14 580 series FAIL within a month of buying it new.

The firing pin on mine broke.

Since then I've managed to buy a spare complete bolt for my 191 Series and fire control group for my AC556). I can buy any other part from Midway or Brownells.
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My Bolt slips off the op rod under sustain fire... Uncanny unheard of issue until now.
I had my Mini-14 580 series FAIL within a month of buying it new.
There is bound to be a lemon here and there. That happens with all firearms manufacturers.

I have a Mini-14 18x series that has over 20,000 rounds through it. I used to use it as a training rifle for new shooters. The only thing I've had to replace was the op rod spring (recoil spring).

I also had a 19x sereis that had a firing pin failure at about 15,000 rounds.

And I had an extractor fail on another 18x series with unknown round count (it was well used when I bought it). I had put at least 12,000 rounds through it.

My basic spare parts kits today include:
-op rod springs
-extractor, spring, plunger
-ejector and spring if a Mini-14, ejector for the newer Ranch Rifles
-factory fitted firing pin
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Originally Posted by Magog View Post
That would be ideal. Maybe if the MINI failed as often as the AR do, they would have a need to stock pile parts around the country.

But Ruger is cool, they fix it all for free form me, and I just had to pay to ship it to them.
Wrong, try again. As much as I like the Mini 14, a mid range AR15 is going to be as reliable as the Mini 14 is. If something breaks its usually a quick and cheap fix, without having to send the gun anywhere. The AR15 comes apart very easy and you can change the firing pin(that does not need to be fitted), and all other parts on the bolt very easy and cheap. Not trying to be a prick but you stand to be corrected.

Anyways thanks for the input guys, just had the question on my mind and wanted to get some of your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by Cole125 View Post
Wrong, try again. As much as I like the Mini 14, a mid range AR15 is going to be as reliable as the Mini 14 is. If something breaks its usually a quick and cheap fix, without having to send the gun anywhere. The AR15 comes apart very easy and you can change the firing pin(that does not need to be fitted), and all other parts on the bolt very easy and cheap. Not trying to be a prick but you stand to be corrected.

Anyways thanks for the input guys, just had the question on my mind and wanted to get some of your thoughts.
Hmm...

I own 3 M4's,
1. Colt, Stag Arms and A DPMS....

I also have 2 Mini's...

I have yet to have any of the above Ar's go through a day at the range with out having some kind of issue.(The DPMS is the best out of the 3 though!!)

I put 1200 rnds through my 186xxx in one weekend with out any cleaning, oil or anything with ZERO issues. This was done using Federal and super cheap Brown Bear ammo.
That will not happen with an AR.(Well maybe with a piston drive...maybe)
One other thing most AR's will not do is shoot any ammo you feed them.
(My DPMS will though!! and is still very accurate with the cheapo ammo)

With that....I do not know how many rounds were through my 186 before I got her but I have ran over 10k rnds through her my self.
The ONLY issues I have had are dud rounds. The gun it self has been 100% reliable and flawless.
(Now my DMPS is a VERY close second!!)
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...CLykZg&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...g2ZHvw&cad=rja

Here are 2 links (to the MANY) of the many, many issues the with M4/AR....
It needs to be 100% If I am going to put my life behind it.
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Originally Posted by Cole125 View Post
Forgive me for a stupid question but I was thinking about this today. How many rounds will a average Mini 14 be able to go without having a major failure?

I would like to hear from you Mini 14 owners who have 1000s of rounds through your rifles about how they hold up, and what parts you had to replace along the way? How long did your original recoil springs hold up?

Let me know your opinions.
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Originally Posted by Cole125 View Post
Wrong, try again. As much as I like the Mini 14, a mid range AR15 is going to be as reliable as the Mini 14 is. If something breaks its usually a quick and cheap fix, without having to send the gun anywhere. The AR15 comes apart very easy and you can change the firing pin(that does not need to be fitted), and all other parts on the bolt very easy and cheap. Not trying to be a prick but you stand to be corrected.

Anyways thanks for the input guys, just had the question on my mind and wanted to get some of your thoughts.
the AR is a piece of SH*T
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the AR is a piece of SH*T
What is your primary metric for that statment?
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it wont stand the whack it on the tree test or dip it in the tub and set it outside 20 below all night then try and shoot it test. or any other hardcore test the MINI or WIN will pass.
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Originally Posted by Magog View Post
That would be ideal. Maybe if the MINI failed as often as the AR do, they would have a need to stock pile parts around the country.

But Ruger is cool, they fix it all for free form me, and I just had to pay to ship it to them.
Originally Posted by Cole125 View Post
Wrong, try again. As much as I like the Mini 14, a mid range AR15 is going to be as reliable as the Mini 14 is. If something breaks its usually a quick and cheap fix, without having to send the gun anywhere. The AR15 comes apart very easy and you can change the firing pin(that does not need to be fitted), and all other parts on the bolt very easy and cheap. Not trying to be a prick but you stand to be corrected.
ummm...there was no correcting done here at all. The only thing you accomplished was affirming Magog's opinion, that ARs fail so often, that the industry has adjusted to make the fixes "usually a quick and cheap fix, without having to send the gun anywhere." Maybe the AR has been designed to "comes apart very easy and you can change the firing pin(that does not need to be fitted), and all other parts on the bolt very easy and cheap..." because they fail so often.
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Originally Posted by Jim Duncan View Post
I own a 180 series. I bought it knowing full well that it is no longer supported by Ruger. No parts are available anywhere as far as I know. With that said I have confidence in it to be functioning for many years to come if given decent care and treatment. It is already over 35 years old and served as a Police Department rifle for many years. I plan on using it til it or I no longer work.... then I may cannibalize another 180? I love the all wood look and iron sights.... works for me.
Ditto on Duncan's post.
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Originally Posted by Jeff F View Post
Well I have a 185 series and thousands and thousands of round down the pipe with no malfunctions and the original recoil spring. The only thing I ever bought for it was an extra stock liner and the mag well reinforcement and the screws and washers for a Choate side folder stock so I could switch back and forth as needed without messing with the liner and reinforcement. I also bought an extra extractor, extractor spring and plunger, but have never needed it.
that aint the only thing you had down the pipe
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it wont stand the whack it on the tree test or dip it in the tub and set it outside 20 below all night then try and shoot it test. or any other hardcore test the MINI or WIN will pass.
You know I've been holding my statements back on your ignorance.

I own TWO Ruger Products, a Mini-14 and a AC-556. I also own a AR-15.

#1 AR's are not that delicate. You can fire THOUSANDS of rounds out of them without them jamming or needing to be cleaned. (I go to Machinegun shoots and see M-16's all the time being shot, THOUSANDS of rounds without cleaning).

#2 I've seen people torture test AR's with Dirt, Sand, Mud, Water, ETC and guess what, They still shoot.

#3 People who make statements like you are just as bad as the AR crowd stating the Mini Sucks.

#4 How about you quit trying to be a troll and feed a line to people. You just registered on this forum and you already have nearly 500 posts? You're just trying to post on everything just to get your post count up.

#5 I can post links show the torture tests on AR's. Dirt/Mud/Sand/Explosions/Run over by a Truck/Being submerged in a swamp and taken out, all these fired.

By your statements, The Mini-14 REALLY Sucks right? I've had a Mini-14 that had a firing pin break under 300 rounds of ammunition. Ruger REFUSED to send me a replacement firing pin so I had to send it back to the factory for them to fix (I wasn't about to use my spare bolt for my AC556 for this). My AR-15 hasn't ever had a issue. Its not that hard to take the extractor out of the Mini-14 to get access to the firing pin, but RUGER will not send you a pin. (Fitting it isn't hard either).

Quit trying to bash a AR or you WILL get unwanted attention from real gun owners with experience to really knock you off your high horse.
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Originally Posted by Dacotua View Post
You know I've been holding my statements back on your ignorance.

I own TWO Ruger Products, a Mini-14 and a AC-556. I also own a AR-15.

#1 AR's are not that delicate. You can fire THOUSANDS of rounds out of them without them jamming or needing to be cleaned. (I go to Machinegun shoots and see M-16's all the time being shot, THOUSANDS of rounds without cleaning).

#2 I've seen people torture test AR's with Dirt, Sand, Mud, Water, ETC and guess what, They still shoot.

#3 People who make statements like you are just as bad as the AR crowd stating the Mini Sucks.

#4 How about you quit trying to be a troll and feed a line to people. You just registered on this forum and you already have nearly 500 posts? You're just trying to post on everything just to get your post count up.

#5 I can post links show the torture tests on AR's. Dirt/Mud/Sand/Explosions/Run over by a Truck/Being submerged in a swamp and taken out, all these fired.

By your statements, The Mini-14 REALLY Sucks right? I've had a Mini-14 that had a firing pin break under 300 rounds of ammunition. Ruger REFUSED to send me a replacement firing pin so I had to send it back to the factory for them to fix (I wasn't about to use my spare bolt for my AC556 for this). My AR-15 hasn't ever had a issue. Its not that hard to take the extractor out of the Mini-14 to get access to the firing pin, but RUGER will not send you a pin. (Fitting it isn't hard either).

Quit trying to bash a AR or you WILL get unwanted attention from real gun owners with experience to really knock you off your high horse.
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