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Old 01-04-2012, 19:56   #1
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No Options for a 185 Series Rear Sight Right ??

New member here. I bought my first Mini 14 today. I think I got a good deal because it is missing the hand guard - $247.95 out the door and the seller included a 20 round Ruger mag. It is a 185 series made in 1990 according to the links I found here.

I've had AR's, AK's, M1A's, M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and a few other military rifle so I'm not new to this type rifle.

After doing a lot of looking and searching tonight, it looks like I'm stuck with the sight system on the rifle. If that is correct, I'll put a hand guard on it and sell it. Then buy another series with more sight options. If there are replacement apertures available that I did not find then I would like to keep the rifle.

It has almost no wear on the moving part. Finish is about 95% or better. Wood is near perfect.

I would appreciate any input on my options for improving the sights.

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New member here. I bought my first Mini 14 today. I think I got a good deal because it is missing the hand guard - $247.95 out the door and the seller included a 20 round Ruger mag. It is a 185 series made in 1990 according to the links I found here.
$247.95...<---i could curse at you all day for getting a deal like that

im pretty sure my 10/22 was more than that out the door
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Are you talking sights, or optics? You can get optics mounts, but your kinda stuck if you dont want glass. BTW I'll give you a $25 profit if you want to unload the sucker.
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I will have to say that for once I got a deal. The owner didn't want it sitting there without a handguard and didn't want to bother with finding one. He bought several guns at one time from a lady the other day and all of them needed repair or some parts so obviously he didn't have much in the Mini.

So, back to my original question: Thanks for the info on the rear sight. I will check out my options on mounting an optic. Are there a couple preferred mounts? I will be using a red dot or a 1 to 4 power short range scope.

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I have a 185 Mini 14 and have for years been using the B Square side mount without any issues. I have R&R the scope many times and it returns to zero good enough to nail that 200+ yard out coyote. My rifle is carried mostly with the optic not mounted in a scabbed on either a quad or on horseback or in the back of the jeep or behind the seat of the pickup. I mostly shoot the iron sights, which are not bad really but it gets the scope for predator control and the longer shots.

I have looked around a bit for aftermarket rear sight replacements but nothing seems to be out there.
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Thanks, Jeff. I'll check out the B Square mount. I really need an optic because of my vision but having good back-up irons would be a plus. I would be very satisfied to hit a coyote at 200 yds.
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so let me get this straight. You need a handguard and optics mount? Jeesh, people, help pastprime out here.. Easy solution. Plus its good for long eye relief sights for those past their prime.

Amega Ruger Mini 14 Mount
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Interesting product, KingANutin. I've been doing a little more thinking about what I will use the rifle for and a regular scope with a little power might be what I end up with.

Coyotes are starting to show up in our area and a neighbor said I could hunt them on his farm as long as I could tell a coyote from a cow....I promised him I'd take a picture of one or the other with me when I went out....
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a nice pistol scope would certainly do the trick on a hand guard rail. a 2-6 or 2-7.. it can take the beating of this type action semi auto, and makes for a much faster target acquisition. Plus a really high power scope just isnt for a mini being its not a long range gun.
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This is my first Mini 14 and I'm learning a lot about them and about what is available for them. When I bought it, I thought I'd buy a handguard and start shooting, but I see there are a lot of things to consider. I'll certainly keep your suggestion in mind, KingANuttin. Every time I do an internet search on "Mini 14", I find more stuff to consider....but it is fun...
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Originally Posted by KingANuthin View Post
so let me get this straight. You need a handguard and optics mount? Jeesh, people, help pastprime out here.. Easy solution. Plus its good for long eye relief sights for those past their prime.

Amega Ruger Mini 14 Mount
This is a possible solution. But not everyone likes the idea of having a forward mounted optic. I myself prefer a traditionally mounted scope, or a dot optic mounted closer in. One other point, the rail mounts are not simple bolt - ins, except for the well mechanicly inclined since you need to align the rail with the gas-bloc screws. This is a job for a good gunsmith , So, were talking about approx. $200 for this deal.
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Originally Posted by 40nascar View Post
This is a possible solution. But not everyone likes the idea of having a forward mounted optic. I myself prefer a traditionally mounted scope, or a dot optic mounted closer in. One other point, the rail mounts are not simple bolt - ins, except for the well mechanicly inclined since you need to align the rail with the gas-bloc screws. This is a job for a good gunsmith , So, were talking about approx. $200 for this deal.
Price wasnt mentioned as a factor in the question. Besides, giving what he paid for it, he is WAY ahead. He has to spend money on a hand guard no matter what anyway.
Plenty of people on this site have installed the rail with no problem. They come with instructions. Assessing the number of firearms the OP has owned, I think he is probably capable of handling the 4 screws. Plus it helps accurize that 185 series. It's gonna need help if a high power scope is going on it.
He asked for options, not preference, or commandment. It's just an option.

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Williams makes an FP series rear sight for the Mini-14 (non-ranch, pre-2005). It is part number is FP-Mini-14.

Here is the price list.

I believe the receiver needs to be drilled and tapped on the side to mount it.
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The part about "drilling" would rule this out for me.
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pastprime, my advice is to buy a choate handguard, then offer the gun for sale or trade for a ranch rifle. Had you got on here a month ago I would have been p.m. messaging. Some of us actually want the "standard" model and I just knocked the front sight off an old GB to get one. Sold a 196 Ranch that could have been what you needed, I can't be the only one that wants the old style.
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Originally Posted by 40nascar View Post
The part about "drilling" would rule this out for me.
Same here.
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Originally Posted by p35bhp55 View Post
pastprime, my advice is to buy a choate handguard, then offer the gun for sale or trade for a ranch rifle. Had you got on here a month ago I would have been p.m. messaging. Some of us actually want the "standard" model and I just knocked the front sight off an old GB to get one. Sold a 196 Ranch that could have been what you needed, I can't be the only one that wants the old style.
This might be the best plan of all. It does look like I'm limited in the accessories I can put on this 185- series rifle.
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Weaver make a side mount for the Mini, which is almost Identical to the B-Square (I have both), but has more slots on top to mount your optics. Also B-square's QC seems to be dropping off, they used to have brass tipped adjustment screws, but not any more, so now the adjustment screws cut into the reciever and some of the set screws are kind of loose in the threads. I used to swear dy the B-Square mounts, but the Weaver mounts IMHO are better quality and cost less.
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Thanks for that info, Amrhein. I was wondering about what the two screws that contact the top of the receiver would to do it when I looked at the B Square mount.

Still on the fence with this one...I got the rifle at a very good price so I can put a few dollars in accessories and still be OK, but I'm somewhat limited as to what I can put on it.....I am having a good time learning about Mini's though....
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Originally Posted by pastprime View Post
Thanks for that info, Amrhein. I was wondering about what the two screws that contact the top of the receiver would to do it when I looked at the B Square mount.

Still on the fence with this one...I got the rifle at a very good price so I can put a few dollars in accessories and still be OK, but I'm somewhat limited as to what I can put on it.....I am having a good time learning about Mini's though....
The two screws that contact the receiver do not dig in but will wear the bluing in those two spots. The screws are used for initial elevation adjustment and leveling of the mount. After everything is adjusted and your happy two set screws lock those screws in place. Whenever you reattach your scope you press the scope and mount down against the receiver and tighten up the thumb wheel on the side. scope and mount go back to your zero and is very repeatable.
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Got it, Jeff. I thought they might put a lot of downward pressure to keep the mount solid.

The hand guard should be here next week. Then I take it to the range and try the iron sights. I've got some 5.56 factory and some of my reloads. Should be interesting.

I know I'm back and forth on some of my posts but until I shoot a Mini and see how we get along, I'm going on what I read and hear....
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S & K Scope Mounts Home Page - rifle scope, scope mounts, Insta-Mount, SKulptured Mounts

Maybe look at an S & K Scope mount. Go to the Ex-Military tab and click on Pictures. 7 down on left side is a mount for a non-ranch Mini.

I have a 196 series stainless non-ranch mini (surprise, surprise). I have installed an S & K mount on my mini-14. It is a solid mount.

I mounted a Redfield Revolution 2x7 scope with an Accu-range reticle. I shot an 'action rifle' match with the scope and it did not move while shooting fast and furious.

The only drawback with the mount is that a non-ranch rifle will eject brass forward and up instead of to the side like a ranch model.
During the match I had one ejected case bounce off of the windage turret cover and back into the action. The ejected case was caught between the closing bolt and the breech face. I pulled the spent case out, racked the bolt and kept firing. Got a nice burn on my trigger finger.

This also happened twice in about 60-70 rounds shot while zeroing/testing the scope and leaves a small mark on the turret cover.

A standard 'plex' type reticle scope could be rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise to put the windage turret on the top and the elevation turret on the left side of the scope. Now your up/down is right/left and right/left is up/down. But that should prevent an ejected case from bouncing back into the action. GunDoc at Great West Gunsmithing has an installation video for the S and K mini-14 mount.

I am currently running the stock rear iron sight (peep drilled out to .140" to let in more light) with a Mo-Reaper muzzle brake/front sight due to the Accu-Range reticle on the Redfield rotated 90 degress looks a little odd.
I do like the iron sight picture with the Mo-Reaper brake. But 51 year old eyes and iron sights don't mix well most of the time.

I am still thinking about a low power fixed or variable scope with a plex reticle to use with the S and K mount.
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I know you folks have seen thousands of these but I'm very pleased with my purchase. Added a Choate hand guard today. Still on the fence as to whether to sell it and buy a Ranch rifle with the integral scope mounts. Now, I'm wondering about the upward ejected cases hitting the scope and causing jams as "196series" mentioned. Weather has not been good for shooting here in my part of NC the past few days. A trip to the range will help me decide. Can't thank you people enough for all the information you have given me....


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Originally Posted by pastprime View Post
New member here. I bought my first Mini 14 today. I think I got a good deal because it is missing the hand guard - $247.95 out the door and the seller included a 20 round Ruger mag. It is a 185 series made in 1990 according to the links I found here...

...After doing a lot of looking and searching tonight, it looks like I'm stuck with the sight system on the rifle. If that is correct, I'll put a hand guard on it and sell it. Then buy another series with more sight options. If there are replacement apertures available that I did not find then I would like to keep the rifle....

...I would appreciate any input on my options for improving the sights.

Thanks,
Hank

If all you want is a different aperture and maybe a new front post you can get that from XS Sights.

XS Sight Systems - Sights

Unfortunately there are not a lot of good options when it comes to iron sights for the Mini 14 (the old ones anyway).
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