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Old 07-18-2011, 19:10   #1
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So I ordered a Accu-strut...

I just ordered a Accu-Strut for my new 581 Mini 14, after reading lots of positive things about them. It was in stock and shipped today, will have it in two days.

Any tips for installing the strut? Do I need a torque wrench, or is hand tightening the screws as tight as they go fine?

Also for those of you who have a Accu-strut on your tapered barrel 581 Mini, how much did it improve the accuracy of YOUR rifle?
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There are plenty of videos on youtube that show how to install an accu-strut. A quick google search should turn up a few of them... Installation is pretty straight forward.
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Takes five minutes, can't screw it up...it's a simple screw-on.
Along with the addition of a flash hider, helped a great deal...
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Easy to put on, use the LocTite that comes with it and it won't go anywhere. As said there are vid on the installation, I think your gonna like the results, I know I did.
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Thank you so much for your order, my friend!

The torque spec is not super critical, no you don't need a torque wrench (which would be calibrated in in-lbs, rather than the more common ft-lbs.)

Using the Loctite cylinder retention formula inside the clamp surfaces usually prevents any slippage issues. When it doesn't, the Optional Security Procedure will solve the problem.

Please let me know if I can answer any other questions.

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I recently put the SOCOM model on my stainless ranch rifle and it's shooting very well - looks good also...

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Kevin, your welcome and I hope to enjoy your product for years to come. Thanks for letting me know hand tightening the screws is okay, and if I have any other questions I'll ask.

I can't wait to get the strut installed on my rifle and take it to the range!
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My groups at 100 yards were reduced by about an inch... but the big difference was in consistency once the barrel was hot. It used to open up a lot, going from a 2.5" cold group to a 5" or 6" hot group. Now after the strut it will be 1.5"-2" cold, 2.5"-3" hot.
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Originally Posted by NGIB View Post
I recently put the SOCOM model on my stainless ranch rifle and it's shooting very well - looks good also...

Man I love those Choate stocks!
With the Socom strut that is what fantastic looking carbine!
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Thanks, the Choate fits me well so it helps me to shoot better. Just put the new scope on it yesterday, a Vortex Viper 2-7...
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I got my Accu-Strut this afternoon and installed it. It was easy to install and looks great!

Here is a pic, threw my new matching 10/22 in too.



Can't wait to get it to the ranch!

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I finally put mine on my 180. Like most things it's intended for the newer models, but it should help. Now for some range time!
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Im still a tad confused or I have missed something.

Of the three struts, I know one is for tapered barrels and the other for thinner ones, but does the SOCOM model fit most of them, or is there a benefit to the SOCOM?

I have a 193 series coming and will be getting a strut, but not decided on the SOCOM or the one for my model.
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Originally Posted by A.T.R. View Post
Im still a tad confused or I have missed something.

Of the three struts, I know one is for tapered barrels and the other for thinner ones, but does the SOCOM model fit most of them, or is there a benefit to the SOCOM?

I have a 193 series coming and will be getting a strut, but not decided on the SOCOM or the one for my model.
Not sure what you're asking...the Accu-strut uses a proprietary "flex-clamp" design that allows attachment of various diameters up to .625 (5/8"). There is not one for thicker barrels, and one for thinner bbls.

The flex design also allows secure attachment onto the tapered portion itself, though not all the way back to the gasblock. You get within about .75", still much closer than a straight bore billet clamp.

The Socom is a single-clamp design with a shorter (by one inch) strut. It was specifically designed for short-barrel tactical Minis, however some Mini owners like it for their full-length rifles as well. It is not yet known whether the Socom works as well as the 2-clamp versions as far as accuracy, and if so in which cases...we are in the middle of testing right now to answer that question.
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kevin,

on your website you mention that the black socom struts will be available without the logo.

are these out yet?
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Originally Posted by chaindrive View Post
kevin,

on your website you mention that the black socom struts will be available without the logo.

are these out yet?
Actually we decided to make only logoed stock for the time being, but it is a more discrete mark.
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It's a shame they don't ship to New Zealand cause I would love to put 1 on my 181 mini 14 before deciding on putting 1 on my 580 and then 581 mini 30. Oh well it will be a great chance to have a go at making 1. Might might post before and after group shots to see how it works out.
Great looking product though.
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Originally Posted by kkina View Post
The Socom is a single-clamp design with a shorter (by one inch) strut. It was specifically designed for short-barrel tactical Minis, however some Mini owners like it for their full-length rifles as well. It is not yet known whether the Socom works as well as the 2-clamp versions as far as accuracy, and if so in which cases...we are in the middle of testing right now to answer that question.
I can't speak to the degree of accuracy variance from a dual clamp to a single clamp version of the strut as I only have the Socom style with the single clamp, but i CAN say that the Socom strut did make a noticable improvmet in my groupings both hot and cold, and from a looks perspective, I consider the Socom a much nicer look so the trade-off of the potential accuracy gain of the 2 clamp versus the 1 clamp was off set by my preference for the Socom look.

BTW - I also think the logo is a bit distracting so I chose to use some home bluing solution to darken the logo into the background....

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Thanks! We've adjusted the logo to be less bold. On the 2-clamp models as well.
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Here's my 581 Ranch with logo-less Socom. Love it!

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I think the old style ranch looks better with a strut
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Originally Posted by Vance in AK View Post
Man I love those Choate stocks!
With the Socom strut that is what fantastic looking carbine!
If you put a slip-on flash hider on your barrel, your group size will be reduced by up to 50%. You don't need to put a splint on your barrel afterward.
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Originally Posted by A.T.R. View Post
Im still a tad confused or I have missed something.

Of the three struts, I know one is for tapered barrels and the other for thinner ones, but does the SOCOM model fit most of them, or is there a benefit to the SOCOM?

I have a 193 series coming and will be getting a strut, but not decided on the SOCOM or the one for my model.
Got what I needed and answered my question. Thanks.



Have you guys shipped man of these up to Canada?
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
If you put a slip-on flash hider on your barrel, your group size will be reduced by up to 50%. You don't need to put a splint on your barrel afterward.
A barrel strut can reduce group size up to 75%. This happens with regularity (on the older, narrower barrels), not a few, unrepresentative samples.

Adding both mods often has a synergistic effect (maybe it's just additive, still good) and can drive the number higher.

Conceptually, I prefer the idea of reducing vibrations completely, rather than shooting through a beneficial node. I may be slightly biased.
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I'm in the process of purchasing a new Mini 14. What improves will the Socom strut make to the rifle?

I like the improvements of appearance and will be making the logo much darker as well if I do purchase, but curious if it is worth the purchase?

Difference in two clamp and single clamp versions?
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